Continued government control of our hobby.

[Hewy]

Read this: moparmusclemagazine.com/index.html
Ronin posted this link in another subject. I feel very concerned about the efforts and yes discrimination and manipulation of old cars and trucks, by the government.
The article points out that big industrial so called "polluters" , get credit for crushing vehicles then continue to pollute. Some of those vehicles can eventually be our restored or otherwise rebuilt good clean running trucks. Think about it.
Sorry I didn't get the link correctly highlighted.

[40YearOldFury]

This one? http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/edit ... index.html

[Hewy]

This one? http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/edit ... index.html

Yes thanks. Must read for all of us.

[Dredge]

You should have seen these clowns when I took my last truck in for emissions testing.......My last truck was a '53 F150 with the factory flat head mill. I wish I had my camera that day

The bottom line here is that too many people in this country don't realize that the govt works for us. We hired them all and we can (and should)fire them all.

'Nuff said..

btw- good read. thx for the link !

[soopernaut]

The bottom line here is that too many people in this country don't realize that the govt works for us.

Maybe at one time. Now they just want you to think that.

[MountainMoparRobin]

The bottom line here is that too many people in this country don't realize that the govt works for us.

Maybe at one time. Now they just want you to think that.

[Dredge]

This topic got me going again, so here's the rant.... I really hate politics some days

545 PEOPLE
By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them..
Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?
Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.
You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.
You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.
You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.
You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.
I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.
I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash.
The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes..
Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi. She is also the leader of the majority party.
She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.
If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red .
If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ
If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

There are no insolvable government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power.. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.
They, and they alone, have the power.
They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.
We must vote ALL of them out of office and clean up their mess! Whatever you do,....next election,
DO NOT RE-ELECT ANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS!!!!!

Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.


"Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem." Ronald Reagan

[PwrWgnDrvr]

This topic got me going again, so here's the rant.... I really hate politics some days

545 PEOPLE
By Charlie Reese

.......One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.......

......I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people......

Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

I wonder what this longwinded blowhard defines as "domestic problem"? Depending on the definition, there is a crapload of problems that are NOT the fault of the 545. There are a few other errors in this diatribe also.
Voting EVERYONE out, and handing absolute control to a bunch of untested, unproven rookies is a recipe for a disaster of all time historic proportion. Charlie Reese is a freakin idiot. Maybe that is why he is a "former" columnist, as in maybe "fired"?

[Hewy]

Interesting comments from Charlie Reese. What he proclaims is that 545 people are the only ones responsible for running the government, might be true on the surface but not true in reality.
What of the thousands that put up these people to be voted on ? Where do they come from ? What influences are put on them ? So we ah.. they... send a new batch of members to congress to clean up the mess and start a new mess ?
Term limits ! No businesses operated by government !
We are a charitable people, I don't need a group telling me where to put my money. all I have left

[tinbasher]

pollution is certainly a valid issue, but i think this has a lot to do with debt and the defacto economic slavery that comes with debt.

our old trucks don't cost much to buy, the process of restoring them is usually paid for in cash, we don't go into debt in the process and are less likely to be manipulated on the basis that if we don't comply we will lose our truck.

buying a new truck most often involves borrowing money, and the loss of freedom that comes with debt.

the obama administration took over an out of control debt creation machine that had been wholly embraced by the previous administration.. (btw, look at what has been done to alaska, 2nd highest per capita debt in the country) regardless of her mantra of freedom, sarah palin and her policies are guaranteed to push america further into debt slavery.

on the other hand, the democrats seem unwilling or unable to turn things around.

if you haven't converted to electronic ignition, now might be a good time to stock up on a few extra sets of points... better yet, go diesel and set yourself up a bio-refinery in the back of your shop.

every day seems to bring a greater incentive to move further back into the hills.

[Floorguy]

the obama administration took over an out of control debt creation machine that had been wholly embraced by the previous administration

Yes, he/they "took over" an out of control debt. Debt he/they wanted to take over and added another $2.5260 trillion! Added! Not reduced. And people thought Bush was bad!

on the other hand, the democrats seem unwilling or unable to turn things around

They took over the wheel in 2006. They're the ones driving us furhter into debt among other things, along with Obama navigating...

[tinbasher]

Yes, he/they "took over" an out of control debt. Debt he/they wanted to take over and added another $2.5260 trillion! Added! Not reduced. And people thought Bush was bad!

i see you're not an obama fan

either way, those numbers sound like they came from some wingnut talk radio show. i don't think any reasonable person would pretend that the lion's share of whatever debt obama has incurred hasn't been to try and repair the damage done by bush2.

republicans since and including reagan have accrued enormous debt, though jfk and lyndon johnson contributed quite a bit to the problem, clinton did quite a bit to turn things around, but bush2 lead such a spending orgy that it might not be solvable... ever. http://home.adelphi.edu/sbloch/deficits.html

you might wonder why i care, living in a different country? when you are sleeping in the same bed as an elephant, you learn to pay attention to what's going on. your economy tanks, we starve.

if obama gets re-elected in '12 you might want to hang on to your gun... if palin or somebody like her gets in, you'd better stock up on bullets because the wingnuts will be quite happy to lead you right down the path to civil war.

no matter who is in control of the white house, communist china and *#%^$&@ arabia hold the deed to your country. israel holds the deed to your government. with regards to your country and your government, they are both foreign owned. and there is nothing that sarah palin can or will say or do to change that.

i just wish the democrats had a spine.

if i sound a bit angry, that's because i haven't had a paycheck in a month and i am probably looking at march at the earliest for my next paycheck (of any sort).

btw, rant over... sorry for hijacking the thread

[66patrick]

Source Interlink Media is the parent company of the 20+ magazines that ran the IDENTICAL article in each mag, with the same international "no" symbol around a car. In fact, Car Craft ran that same article over 20 years ago, with very minor changes made for the difference in time.

Oh, and tinbasher, who actually MAKES the spending bills??? Answer - NOT the President. He signs them into law, yes, but Congress writes the bills, and the time period you quote, the party of the D was the majority in both houses of Congress, NOT the Republicans. Your party has taken this country down the path to ruin in just four short years (four with D as majority in Congress and two with Obummer as TOTUS (TelePrompTer of the US), spending more in just those four years as every Congress from Washington through GHW Bush COMBINED. Reagan's eight years had eight years of big-spending Dems in charge, remember??? The only thing that kept Clinton in line was a Republican Congress - remember the election of '94?

Thankfully, when the ADULTS get elected to Congress November 2nd, the big D spenders like Reid and Pelosi will be out of a job, and Obummer will be a lame-duck first-termer with zero support from all but the most hard-core Socialists, Fascists, and Marxists that surround him. Just like Carter before him, only worse.

[MountainMoparRobin]

New people couldn't be as bad and the current admistration, our leader had absolutly no experiance in anything but community orgaizer, his senator status was he just got elected and never attended. look at the mess that has come out of the last 2 yrs. it will take alot of work to try to make any sense of the crap.

[Floorguy]

New people couldn't be as bad and the current admistration, our leader had absolutly no experiance in anything but community orgaizer, his senator status was he just got elected and never attended. look at the mess that has come out of the last 2 yrs. it will take alot of work to try to make any sense of the crap.

[tinbasher]

New people couldn't be as bad and the current admistration

wanna bet? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 450AAIPNqV

as far as the bush2 spending orgy, most of it was done with control of both houses.

i guess i should have said it more clearly, in as much as the democrats need a spine, the republicans need a brain.

having to whore out your military to the interests of china is not helping you any more than needing the okay from the jewish lobby to make even the simplest decision.

when glen beck and sarah palin tell you to obey religion, what they mean is that you must obey israel... how is that going to help america? do you think israel gives a flying crap about you?

remember the attack on the uss liberty? go ahead, bring that up and see how quickly sarah palin's extreme/fanatic nationalism turns into zionist apologetics. i bet you a dollar she leaps to the defense of a foreign country that has attacked america.

like i said, the republicans are every bit as much in need as the democrats.

[66patrick]

Tinbasher - Take five minutes of your day and read this column, written yesterday, by Victor Davis Hanson. Trust me, you will learn something here:

http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/ha ... 910PF.html

This sums up everything.

[Hewy]

Debate is alive and well in America. Now Tuesday get out and vote

[tinbasher]

This sums up everything.

that's a great example of where two people say the same thing and mean something totally different.

if you are going to reference 'columns', you should at least use examples where the 'writer' is literate.

hanson's rant is a basic parroting of the limbaugh/talk radio model... long on hate, short on substance. btw, do i need to remind you that limbaugh is a 60 year old designer dope addict?

you see, it really doesn't matter whether limbaugh is a dope addict or not, but by throwing that in i descend into unnecessary and irrelevant nastiness that is the stock and trade of talk radio/beck/o'reilley/fox etc...

i did note that hanson managed to work in a complete absolution of bp's malfeasance and a re-assertion of the primacy of israel.

like i said, the democrats need a spine, the republicans need a brain.

maybe they should get together (without limbaugh/palin, or any other of the hate monger/wingnuts) and work it out. you need to be rid of the parasites that are sucking the blood out of your government and your country. the democrats know what needs to be done, but lack the courage... the republicans are plenty courageous, but they don't know what to do or where to begin, as long as they have pied pipers of hamelin (talk radio/fox etc) leading them down the garden path they will never be headed in the right direction.

as far as maligning socialism as a dirty word, moderation is the key. remember that canadians are quite happy with our 'socialized' health care system, in spite of the fact that the israel lobby is trying to remove it from us surreptitiously. also, it was our 'socialist' component that prevented the american (republican) style deregulation of our banking system. in fact, our conservative (republican) federal government was still trying to overcome political opposition to deregulate the system just a few months prior to the collapse. as it stands now, our banking system is one of the strongest in the world. stopping conservatives (republicans) in their tracks can be a very verrrrrrrry good thing.

unlike the american left (democrats), our opposition parties stood up to the conservatives. one of the reasons that was doable was that we don't have the poisonous 'do it our way or be called a traitor' component up here. much of the problem in the states is clearly the de facto republican license to call anybody that disagrees with any of their policies a traitor, or at least, bring their patriotism into serious question. fortunately, that kind of bullshit simply doesn't work up here... and like i said before, if cornered... sarah palin, rush limbaugh, bill o'reilly, glen beck and that whole gang will all side with israel, first and foremost, every time.

what kind of patriotism is that.

in order to deal with it's problems, a country needs a government that has a license do what needs to be done. foreign control of your government will never allow you that.

[Oxdodge]

If I can no longer drive an old car or truck because it pollutes, I would rather put catalytic converters on it and drive it then have it sitting in the garage and can't drive it. They're winning, unfortunately. It's just a matter of time.