Mopar Power Steering on a straight axle Sweptline

[MBigDaddyM]

Thanks for stepping up Robin! -BD

[MountainMoparRobin]

i agree with BigDad - this post is useless without an accurate parts list.

Ben

and how many other post have parts list?
and who is the apointed commity to say its accurate?
Who elected them to the commity?
His problem with putting it out to the mass, how many people could actually do the swap without supervision?
He did get to catch wind of the group of people on the other forum with the responses, and claims of what would happen made him Laugh,and those post made it apparent Some have no clue. The true useless part of the forums is when a small group, come into agreement that they are authorities (keep in mind they only replace parts )
Those are the people that are keeping the forums stagnent
Instead of being a part of the forum, they become a social order
Old_Blue (Corry) took the idea, put it to the testing, it passed and he is very happy with the improvement over manual steering. from reading the ridiculious responses on the other forum, its clear not 50% of the people would be able to do this on their own. Taking on the task to determine the people actually capable of understanding how to put it on would be very large and time consuming. and he can't be their in person to make sure its done right. Its not a kit, and as of now, he isn't planning to put it out.
It takes just a little bit of steering, engineering, and mechanical ability to use the existing options out their, for the rest, they'll spend money to pay someone else to do the job.

[MBigDaddyM]

I thought you said it was simple now it's unbelieveably hard? I think anyone with half a brain understand that any major mods made to our trucks is at our own risk. Not sure how he would be held accountable, but let me help.

MODDING THE SUSPENSION ON ANY VEHICLE IS DANGEROUS IF YOU F*** UP AND KILL YOURSELF DONT BLAME ROBIN OR OLD BLUE.

[CSS-Registry]

I thought you said it was simple now it's unbelieveably hard? I think anyone with half a brain understand that any major mods made to our trucks is at our own risk. Not sure how he would be held accountable, but let me help.

MODDING THE SUSPENSION ON ANY VEHICLE IS DANGEROUS IF YOU F*** UP AND KILL YOURSELF DONT BLAME ROBIN OR OLD BLUE.

again, i can't agree more with Big Dad...

Robin - i am interested in the parts list as this something i will probably do to my truck in the not too distant future.

to be even more transparent: i hope to benefit from someone like OldBlue's experience and not spend a bunch of money based on second hand info and a couple of photos from someone who didn't bolt it all together.

Ben

[fosh69]

As you might have noticed, Cory doesnt' get around to posting here much which might beg the question if he's even following this or any other post. Your best bet would be to call him up and have a conversation. He's a helluva nice guy and would most likely be happy to help. The only issue would be actually getting his contact info... I hear he keeps plenty busy. Any input, Robin?

[shdnobetter]

Looks almost factory installed.....

[Russ]

Is there a picture of this setup posted anywhere? I don't plan on doing it but I'd like to see a picture of it for possible future reference. I might change my mind if I ever get anther straight axle truck.

[CSS-Registry]

Is there a picture of this setup posted anywhere? I don't plan on doing it but I'd like to see a picture of it for possible future reference. I might change my mind if I ever get anther straight axle truck.

Russ,

it is on the first post.

Ben

[Russ]

Is there a picture of this setup posted anywhere? I don't plan on doing it but I'd like to see a picture of it for possible future reference. I might change my mind if I ever get anther straight axle truck.

Russ,

it is on the first post.

Ben

What I meant was a more complete picture of the entire setup. I'm more curious about what he did at the spindle end, and also what his steering shaft looks like.

I have some time to kill today so I looked this topic up on the other forum and read through the many responses. Lots of mis-understanding there it seems, but it definitely generated a lot of conversation.

[MBigDaddyM]

What the pic doesn't show is Robin on one end and his buddy on the other holding it in place. -BD

[MBigDaddyM]

Sure got quiet in here.... -BD

[MountainMoparRobin]

I thought you said it was simple now it's unbelieveably hard? I think anyone with half a brain understand that any major mods made to our trucks is at our own risk. Not sure how he would be held accountable, but let me help.

MODDING THE SUSPENSION ON ANY VEHICLE IS DANGEROUS IF YOU F*** UP AND KILL YOURSELF DONT BLAME ROBIN OR OLD BLUE.

It is simple, and the fact that most people can't understand makes it clear of how many don't have a clue of steering geometry, which then leads to just how dangerous it could be it those same people try to install it

[MountainMoparRobin]

Is there a picture of this setup posted anywhere? I don't plan on doing it but I'd like to see a picture of it for possible future reference. I might change my mind if I ever get anther straight axle truck.

Russ,

it is on the first post.

Ben

What I meant was a more complete picture of the entire setup. I'm more curious about what he did at the spindle end, and also what his steering shaft looks like.

I have some time to kill today so I looked this topic up on the other forum and read through the many responses. Lots of mis-understanding there it seems, but it definitely generated a lot of conversation.

Russ as you read on the other forum, as I had posted numerous times the shaft is the same one out of the 2002 Dodge Ram donor, with him being a practicing mechanic, he has access to a lift so he was able to fit the steering shaft from the Donor truck.

[MountainMoparRobin]

As you might have noticed, Cory doesnt' get around to posting here much which might beg the question if he's even following this or any other post. Your best bet would be to call him up and have a conversation. He's a helluva nice guy and would most likely be happy to help. The only issue would be actually getting his contact info... I hear he keeps plenty busy. Any input, Robin?

As I already have posted, he wants nothing to do with getting this out to the masses, I talked to him a few times after posting, he did read some of the remarks, and he realizes most people pay to have their trucks worked on, and their is a reason why they pay.

[MountainMoparRobin]

I thought you said it was simple now it's unbelieveably hard? I think anyone with half a brain understand that any major mods made to our trucks is at our own risk. Not sure how he would be held accountable, but let me help.

MODDING THE SUSPENSION ON ANY VEHICLE IS DANGEROUS IF YOU F*** UP AND KILL YOURSELF DONT BLAME ROBIN OR OLD BLUE.

again, i can't agree more with Big Dad...

Robin - i am interested in the parts list as this something i will probably do to my truck in the not too distant future.

to be even more transparent: i hope to benefit from someone like OldBlue's experience and not spend a bunch of money based on second hand info and a couple of photos from someone who didn't bolt it all together.

Ben

I would think you'd have put in the toyota box, for it would take sharp eye to figure out it isn't stock

[MountainMoparRobin]

What the pic doesn't show is Robin on one end and his buddy on the other holding it in place. -BD

What?

[CSS-Registry]

As I already have posted, he wants nothing to do with getting this out to the masses, I talked to him a few times after posting, he did read some of the remarks, and he realizes most people pay to have their trucks worked on, and their is a reason why they pay.

what is irritating to me is in your original post you're proudly waving the "MOPAR-only" flag for this system and then you don't provide the specific means to help others achieve the same goal.

Ben

[MountainMoparRobin]

As I already have posted, he wants nothing to do with getting this out to the masses, I talked to him a few times after posting, he did read some of the remarks, and he realizes most people pay to have their trucks worked on, and their is a reason why they pay.

what is irritating to me is in your original post you're proudly waving the "MOPAR-only" flag for this system and then you don't provide the specific means to help others achieve the same goal.

Ben

Whats irritating to me is I practically wrote you a "tech install" and you weren't able to understand, or didn't want to, and you drive a truck with the same setup, interest? Seems more like an attempt to be overly critical to the poster and not the setup, this takes away from those that are truly interested in something thats not a Chevy or Ford alternative. FredM liked the setup also along with everyone that attended the Cruise that year. I'm sure now that since the majority of the people see that the use of Mopar systems for Mopars are abundant, and unused (seems everyone forgets Mopar has everything any other manufacturer has) I think we'll see companies developing these setups. I'm sorry CSS-Registry if I'm proud of Mopar parts being used on Mopars, but I thought that this is a Dodge Truck forum and its good to see somebody not give up on Mopar. I think their are some surprises instore for Mopar, or should I be more specific to say DODGE TRUCK owners coming down in the pipe, but it will be Mopar parts, since those parts were engineered to work together

[CSS-Registry]

Whats irritating to me is I practically wrote you a "tech install"

i do not see a technical install - all i see is lots of rambling spread along on three pages - that is difficult to read at best.

i'll say it again - please be more specific for those, like me, who live on a budget who don't want to waste money on buying the wrong parts experimenting with what may or may not work.

being overly critical is a matter of personal perception - as a leading member on this site we should be held to a higher standard - if you can't take the heat... well, you know the rest.

if all you're going to do is tease and belittle those who look at viable alternatives then you have to expect critical comments.

additionally, if you're going to wave a particular flag then please do it with the idea that you should be able to FULLY help those asking questions rather than putting out teasers that simply stir the pot of frustration.

all i am simply asking for is a detailed parts list and better photos in ONE concise post. that effort would be a great start in showing your leadership in keeping things all MOPAR.

Please Note - i am not only asking for myself as there are those who come to the forums and don't want to get caught up in the drama.

at this point i am done with this topic until something more meaningful is posted other than a weak photo and a basic description spread out over several posts.

Ben

[fosh69]

No disrespect to anyone but, I was just looking at that first pic and it seems anyone with the notion and ability to do it could, in fact, figure it out from what is pictured and stated in the text. If not, looks like a front mounted power rack of whatever ratio, inner tie rods to account for the width of track and the knuckles have obviously been swapped to the front to accommodate front mounted rack. The rest could be set up like any power setup: pump, reservoir and plumbing. connect it to the steering shaft in whatever fits your fancy and you're in business. Why all the bickering is beyond me.

p.s. no limit eng. did a whole write-up a while back in one of the classic truck mags on a ford. The concept isn't new and has been done more than once. here's a link to the kit:
http://www.nolimit.net/prodinfo.asp?number=PS-SA-