DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A POWER WAGON AND A D100

[dodgetnt]

just wondering what the difference is between a POWERWAGON AND D100. Thanks

[soopernaut]

A Power Wagon is always 4-wheel drive. It doesn't matter if it is a 1/2 ton or a 6 ton. D100 is a 1/2 ton 2-wheel drive truck. Later there was a heavier 1/2 ton called D150 or W150. W was the letter designated to 4-wheel drive trucks. W100 would be a 1/2 ton 4-wheel drive truck but if it was built 68 or earlier it would have 3/4 ton axles with a short bed. W200 would use the same axles but have a long bed.

[Ruckus]

The frame is thinner and the frame section modulus (width times height) is smaller on a D100. Longer wheelbases and heavier rated models got thicker and larger frames. This does not necessarily mean a D100 frame is "weak", just that it is weaker than say a W200 frame. Of course, the lack of a transfer case and front drive axle is the obvious difference...

[Butch Romig]

ruckus
you are wrong about the frames
they are the same except for the extra holes drilled for the t case,etc
butch

[RussRoth]

ruckus
you are wrong about the frames
they are the same except for the extra holes drilled for the t case,etc
butch

Butch,

I thought they were all the same also but I have a d100 that has a frame that is made of a thinner material. I don't believe all 100's are like that though.

[Ruckus]

I wouldn't be surprised if the difference was less in earlier years and more in later years. The 100 series definately got wimpier as time went on (loosing the rear Dana 60 and going from 8 to 5 lugs) Similarly, The W300 peaked in stoutness from 65-71, after that the super burly W300 strait frame was retired and a 72 W300 sits on a W200 shaped frame. By the mid 70's each wheelbase and GVW had it's own frame with some sharing of course...

[Hobcobble]

ruckus
you are wrong about the frames
they are the same except for the extra holes drilled for the t case,etc
butch

Butch,

I thought they were all the same also but I have a d100 that has a frame that is made of a thinner material. I don't believe all 100's are like that though.

I've never heard of this. The 100 & 200 series frames are the same in my parts books ....
....from what I can tell. What year 100 do you own Russ?

John

[RussRoth]

'66 Short narrow box. It definitely is a lighter gauge steel than the PW. I had a '68 D100 long bed and do not recall it being lighter.

[Ruckus]

It is not something you notice unless you get out the micrometer... I know the later trucks get thicker by wheelbase. Short D100 frames were thinner than long D100 frames.

[RussRoth]

It is not something you notice unless you get out the micrometer... I know the later trucks get thicker by wheelbase. Short D100 frames were thinner than long D100 frames.

Well, that seems to have held true in my case. I didn't need the micrometer though. It's pretty noticeable to me, especially if you were to be looking specifically for that.

[Ruckus]

This website: http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/ ... tindex.htm lists the 63 D-series specs as follows:
D100 114" wheelbase 2.56 section modulus
122" wheelbase 2.84 secion modulus
D200 122" wheelbase 3.43 section modulus
crewcab 4.70 section modulus
D300 5.70 section modulus

Unfortunately, I don't have the numbers for the W-series yet, but you can see that putting a front drive axle under a D100 does not get you a W200 as some folks suggest in other posts on this website. Of course I have yet to hear of any dodge frame failing. Has anyone else?

[Skunkman]

A Power Wagon is always 4-wheel drive. It doesn't matter if it is a 1/2 ton or a 6 ton. D100 is a 1/2 ton 2-wheel drive truck. Later there was a heavier 1/2 ton called D150 or W150. W was the letter designated to 4-wheel drive trucks. W100 would be a 1/2 ton 4-wheel drive truck but if it was built 68 or earlier it would have 3/4 ton axles with a short bed. W200 would use the same axles but have a long bed.

My truck was made in late 66 I'm assuming its a 67 model year. It's an exMilitary vehicle, I bought it just before I got sent here to Afghanistan. It's 4 door, with a step-side bed.

1] It has what i believe is 'closed knuckle' as you cant see anything under the wheel but a bowl shaped disk on both sides. Is a lock out kit available for this set up.

2] If I'm reading right, the dual stick is a NP 201. Where can I find information about this transfer case?

3] Is there a 'bolt in' replacement that is better than the 201, like a 203 or 205?

4] What is the 'Super Six'?

5] Also, is mine a W100 or W200, they say the short bed is a W100, but mine is a crew cab, so would that make it a w200? Does it really matter?

6] where can I get sheet metal for the steps... all four are rotted out.

Thanks for your help!

Michael

[Skunkman]

This website: http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/ ... tindex.htm lists the 63 D-series specs as follows:
D100 114" wheelbase 2.56 section modulus
122" wheelbase 2.84 secion modulus
D200 122" wheelbase 3.43 section modulus
crewcab 4.70 section modulus
D300 5.70 section modulus

What does 'modulus' mean?

[Hobcobble]

A Power Wagon is always 4-wheel drive. It doesn't matter if it is a 1/2 ton or a 6 ton. D100 is a 1/2 ton 2-wheel drive truck. Later there was a heavier 1/2 ton called D150 or W150. W was the letter designated to 4-wheel drive trucks. W100 would be a 1/2 ton 4-wheel drive truck but if it was built 68 or earlier it would have 3/4 ton axles with a short bed. W200 would use the same axles but have a long bed.

My truck was made in late 66 I'm assuming its a 67 model year. It's an exMilitary vehicle, I bought it just before I got sent here to Afghanistan. It's 4 door, with a step-side bed.

1] It has what i believe is 'closed knuckle' as you cant see anything under the wheel but a bowl shaped disk on both sides. Is a lock out kit available for this set up.

>It is closed knuckle. There were 2 sizes available. There are lockout kits available.

2] If I'm reading right, the dual stick is a NP 201. Where can I find information about this transfer case?

>A Sweptline parts manual wold be a good starting point. It is the NP201 T/C

3] Is there a 'bolt in' replacement that is better than the 201, like a 203 or 205?

>'69-'71 W's had NP205's but I'm not sure that is a direct bolt-in without some minor mods

4] What is the 'Super Six'?

>A 2bbl Slant 6

5] Also, is mine a W100 or W200, they say the short bed is a W100, but mine is a crew cab, so would that make it a w200? Does it really matter?

>Yours would be the W200. The W100's from '61-'68 had 8 lug DANA axles and a 114" wheel base.

6] where can I get sheet metal for the steps... all four are rotted out.

> http://www.vintagepowerwagons.com

Thanks for your help!

Michael

[muddyoldman]

I have a 1968 W200 w/ 8 lug axles and it is a short-bed. ?????????

[soopernaut]

I have a 1968 W200 w/ 8 lug axles and it is a short-bed. ?????????

Is it a regular cab or a crew cab? If it is a regular cab is it all original or has something been changed?

[digdoug]

ruckus
you are wrong about the frames
they are the same except for the extra holes drilled for the t case,etc
butch

Butch,

I thought they were all the same also but I have a d100 that has a frame that is made of a thinner material. I don't believe all 100's are like that though.

I've never heard of this. The 100 & 200 series frames are the same in my parts books ....
....from what I can tell. What year 100 do you own Russ?

John

This is from my 66 sales brochure .My 67 4x4 sales brochure shows 128" W200 section mod.as 3.88

[frankyb]

What is the VIN for your 68? Run it through the registry. Was the VIN plate ever replaced? My catalog shows the smallest wheel base offered for a 1968 W200 is 128 inches, NOT the short bed 114". Perhaps yours is a W100... in 68 they were all 8 lug.

------
To answer the original question...

The civilian (original) Power Wagon (3/4 and 1 ton) was made (for the U.S.) between 1946 and 1968 (exported for a few years after 68) and looked very much like a military vehicle and changed very little during those years. They were geared low and used heavily on farms and rural uses.

The first light-duty Power Wagons came out in 1957 with the introduction of the W100 and W200 pickups.

All 4WD Dodge pickups were called Power Wagons from 1957 to 1981. After 1981 they were called Power Rams through 1993.

Starting again in 2005, Dodge brought back the Power Wagon name on a version of the Dodge Ram. Based on the Ram 2500, the 5.7 Hemi is the only engine option. Differences from this Power Wagon and other Dodge 4WD are that the PW has: electronically controlled locking front and rear differentials, an electric disconnect sway bar, winch, clearance lights, black fender flares, 17" wheels, Power Wagon badging, larger tires, and a raise in ride height. You can not have the Cummins in the PW due to weight and concerns about the disconnecting sway bars.

[Hobcobble]

I have a 1968 W200 w/ 8 lug axles and it is a short-bed. ?????????

Post the VIN tag data up for us to look at. As FrankyB pointed out, it sounds like
you may have a W100.

A bit of additional information on the '05 Power Wagon.... they aren't available
with a snow plow prep package.... which makes them somewhat useless to us
folks that push snow around in the Northeast . Don't get me wrong....
they'll do the job..... but you're potentially voiding the warranty when plowing
with one.
John

[Ruckus]

Do they have a Dana 60 Front? I thought cummins trucks had snowplowing limitations because the Dana 44 is already maxed out by the heavy diesel...