CSS Dilemma

Stoney · Post by **Stoney** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:11 pm

Alright Guys I need some input !!! I've got two (2) 1966 CSS trucks I am planning on using to making one. One is the D200 Bubba Storey had and the second is a D100 Short Wide Box I found. The original plan was to take the ~50K documented miles 318 Poly and trans and all the other trinkets from the D200 and put in the Shorty. The thought process is to keep it year correct and true to it's original build as possible.

Here comes the dilemma.......... I now have in my posession a good running 440 which has twisted my thinkin.

Sooooooo.........do I stay period/year correct and continue with my original plan or drop the 440 in? Which direction would add the most value to the truck in your opinion as a buyer/collector? Or does it matter since neither are original to the truck?

I've already touched base with Ben and he had a great idea but I would like to hear what you guys think also.

Thanks,
Stoney

Txas2step · Post by **Txas2step** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:47 pm

I'd put the poly in the shorty and the 440 in the 200....my

dodgeboykim · Post by **dodgeboykim** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:19 pm

To me the shorty would be the toy. 440 came out in 66 so its kinda

period correct for a shorty.

More fun in the shorty. Keep the poly for the farm truck. If the shorty is an auto truck then nothing is harmed in the install.

nytemuvr · Post by **nytemuvr** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:08 am

Better donuts with the BB and short bed....just a thought.

EarlKann · Post by **EarlKann** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:12 am

Damn, two CSS trucks. Wish I could find a good one.

I like the poly myself.

Post by **wally426ci** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:14 am

EarlKann wrote:Damn, two CSS trucks. Wish I could find a good one.

I like the poly myself.

Yeah, I think I see more original trucks bringing better money than modified. It may be because I don't care for modified trucks though......

soopernaut · Post by **soopernaut** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:16 am

People will generally pay more for all original. Custom trucks many times only appeal to the builder. However adding a 440 isn't radically customizing and many would prefer this engine to a 318.

mopardwh · Post by **mopardwh** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:40 am

Are both trucks rebuildable? If your looking at value, the matching numbers might be more valuable.

Stoney · Post by **Stoney** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:05 am

My intent regardless of the engine will be to retore it back to the factory look. The only thing anyone would see not standard for 1966 would be in the engine compartment. The Shorty is a dash shift auto so that will work well with the 440.

For those that are unfamiliar with the D200 it left the assembly line and went to Northern Indiana for the addition of a Camper built on to the frame. The camper has since been removed leaving the cab and frame. There is no plan for restoration of this truck only as a donor. It is an auto also with PS, gauges with tachometer and "Cool Comfort" under dash mounted AC. All that will be going in the Shorty since it looks to have no options. Again..........all year correct but not original to the truck. If the truck were to be sold this info would all be known up front as I am not trying to "forge" an original.

Again..........thanks for the input

PwrWgnDrvr · Post by **PwrWgnDrvr** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:32 am

EarlKann wrote:Damn, two CSS trucks. Wish I could find a good one.

I like the poly myself.

Earl, Ive got two also. Both are CSS utes, the only 2 known. The 64 was customized with a 440. I would let it go for the right price - (I paid more than $5000 for the truck)
Here's a short video of the day I got it from the Viet Nam vet who built it and showed it in Nor Cal. The guy also has over 50 cats so he always looks under vehicles before moving them

(I'm behind the camera)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83_HBLgZ ... e=youtu.be

EarlKann · Post by **EarlKann** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:48 am

PwrWgnDrvr wrote:
EarlKann wrote:Damn, two CSS trucks. Wish I could find a good one.

I like the poly myself.
Earl, Ive got two also. Both are CSS utes, the only 2 known. The 64 was customized with a 440. I would let it go for the right price - (I paid more than $5000 for the truck)
Here's a short video of the day I got it from the Viet Nam vet who built it and showed it in Nor Cal. The guy also has over 50 cats so he always looks under vehicles before moving them
(I'm behind the camera)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83_HBLgZ ... e=youtu.be

Cool truck, but not my style.

In relation to the original posters question, I am not interested in PwrWgnDrvr's CSS ute because I'd rather have the period correct poly even if it weren't the original engine. I would like something street friendly and somewhat fuel efficient as I will be driving it to work often. Some people have a desire for more cubic inches, I'm just not one of them. I'm also not a fan of utilines or black, but that's just more personal preference.

I think that the engine choice should come down to what your plans are for the truck. If you are building for resale, the period correct parts are a better choice. If you are building for yourself to keep, then do what ever you prefer, it's your truck!

nytemuvr · Post by **nytemuvr** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:58 am

PwrWgnDrvr wrote:
EarlKann wrote:Damn, two CSS trucks. Wish I could find a good one. :banghead

I like the poly myself.
Earl, Ive got two also. Both are CSS utes, the only 2 known. The 64 was customized with a 440. I would let it go for the right price - (I paid more than $5000 for the truck)
Here's a short video of the day I got it from the Viet Nam vet who built it and showed it in Nor Cal. The guy also has over 50 cats so he always looks under vehicles before moving them :lol:
(I'm behind the camera)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83_HBLgZ ... e=youtu.be

That's a sweety, I like the black and sounds healthy too. Meet you in the Gemco parking lot and we'll make a round or two on Main on Saturday night, then go have a Mel's burger. Oh those were good old days...Cruzin' Creek.

PwrWgnDrvr · Post by **PwrWgnDrvr** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:25 pm

Cruz'n the Creek...every Fri/Sat eve, 8 - midnight, Gemco to Capwells, about 30 minutes/round....

Earl, my 65 ute is bone stock, 318 poly, 727, factory black, NO ROT or rust pitting anywhere - shiny factory paint on the floors!

EarlKann · Post by **EarlKann** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:45 pm

We also had a Gemco parking lot that was the cruise stop here in Riverside back in the 80's. Then someone got stabbed and the cops shut it down.

runcharger · Post by **runcharger** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:46 pm

I just don't find small block V8's very exciting. I would swap in the 440 and make it look cosmetically like a year correct 413. More fun to drive (a lot more fun) and it will get much more attention at any car show. I wouldn't even think twice about it.

Sheldon

Stoney · Post by **Stoney** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:06 pm

By the way..............Was the "Cool Comfort" AC factory installed or dealer installed?

I like the thought on the 413 !!!

soopernaut · Post by **soopernaut** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:15 am

Stoney wrote:By the way..............Was the "Cool Comfort" AC factory installed or dealer installed?

I like the thought on the 413 !!!

A/C wasn't a factory option until 68.

Post by **CSS-Registry** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:33 am

soopernaut wrote:
Stoney wrote:By the way..............Was the "Cool Comfort" AC factory installed or dealer installed?

I like the thought on the 413 !!!
A/C wasn't a factory option until 68.

Not true. Both 66 D200 HPP have "factory" air as they were ordered and delivered to the dealer with AC installed. Technically they were under dash unit installed off-line but it was installed by contractors of the mound road plant.

Ben

soopernaut · Post by **soopernaut** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:35 am

CSS-Registry wrote:
soopernaut wrote:
Stoney wrote:By the way..............Was the "Cool Comfort" AC factory installed or dealer installed?

I like the thought on the 413 !!!
A/C wasn't a factory option until 68.
Not true. Both 66 D200 HPP have "factory" air as they were ordered and delivered to the dealer with AC installed. Technically they were under dash unit installed off-line but it was installed by contractors of the mound road plant.

Ben

So do they have a SERT for the A/C? The 1st evidence I can find mentioned in any literature is for 68.

Post by **CSS-Registry** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:26 am

soopernaut wrote:
So do they have a SERT for the A/C? The 1st evidence I can find mentioned in any literature is for 68.

no. it was not included on the SERT.

i think i have mentioned this before but you can not take the factory sales literature as the gospel for the model year. there were many options that a new truck buyer could order from the "factory" that was not listed in the catalog. many running changes were introduced and as such dealers who were informed of them could make them available to potential buyers.

both trucks had under dash units installed before delivery to the dealer and one of them is very well documented as having "factory" AC.

i have learned a long time ago never say never with these trucks (even if i say it never happened :)

Ben

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