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Replacing Mechanical Oil Pressure Gauge Hose (68 D200 318)

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:06 pm
by demliag
I have a 68 D200 318, that has the stock mechanical oil pressure gauge. The rubber hose for it broke, and I was looking to replace it. I see the copper lines that Summit offers, but they are 1/8" line, and the factory gauge looks to have a 3/16" line at the end that goes into the gauge. Has anyone used some 1/8" copper line with a compression fitting to replace this line? I'm worried that it will leak if I try to do this.
I have read a few people say that they used a hose barb into the factory hose, and then the copper compression fitting from there to the sender, but it also seems like the barb might leak since the oil pressure gets above 40psi some times.

Thanks for any help.

Re: Replacing Mechanical Oil Pressure Gauge Hose (68 D200 31

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:30 pm
by powerwagon54
The fitting that screws into the gauge is 3/8 28 tpi. They are not made anymore. The 3/8 fittings now being produced are 24tpi. It wont work. You will have to take it to a hydraulic shop and see if they can splice a new hose on for you.

Re: Replacing Mechanical Oil Pressure Gauge Hose (68 D200 31

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:32 pm
by powerwagon54
Also the hoses being sold on ebay have the incorrect fitting for the gauge. I tried to explain it to them, but they refuse to accept it. So buyer beware, they do leak.

Re: Replacing Mechanical Oil Pressure Gauge Hose (68 D200 31

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:04 pm
by franktiregod
powerwagon54 wrote:Also the hoses being sold on ebay have the incorrect fitting for the gauge. I tried to explain it to them, but they refuse to accept it. So buyer beware, they do leak.
Thanks for that info.

And dont buy the "new" fuel sending units or you will wish you hadnt.

Still waiting on that call from their "tech guy"

Re: Replacing Mechanical Oil Pressure Gauge Hose (68 D200 31

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:39 am
by demliag
Hey Powerwagon54, you think I could take the fitting off the old original hose and put that on the 1/8" copper line? Seems like as long as the copper compression fitting that came with the 1/8" copper line seals up against the back of the gauge, and to the 3/8 28tpi fitting, then it shouldn't leak? That's the part I'm not sure about. What about just using a hose barb like I've seen others on here suggest? Is the pressure too high for that type of connection to not leak?
Thanks for your help. Hoping to get this thing on the road in the next few weeks, trying to sort out the last few gremlins.

Re: Replacing Mechanical Oil Pressure Gauge Hose (68 D200 31

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:29 am
by powerwagon54
The factory fitting is 3/16 not 1/8 inch. So that is not going to work. It takes a 3/16 ferulle to fit the gauge. Go to a hydraulic shop and see if they can reduce it down with fittings to use your 1/8 inch line.

Re: Replacing Mechanical Oil Pressure Gauge Hose (68 D200 31

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:33 am
by wally426ci
I tried adapting mine and it leaked. Bud is correct above.

Re: Replacing Mechanical Oil Pressure Gauge Hose (68 D200 31

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:11 am
by CSS-Registry
i was able to find a really nice used hose but i'd imagine that won't last forever.

my dad used a bunch of fittings and was able to figure out a way to put a barbed hose fitting on it and them simply cut off the old hose end and clamped it on the barb fitting.

i think i have that adapter somewhere but my truck has been done now for 7 years. amazing how time slips by so easily.

Ben

Re: Replacing Mechanical Oil Pressure Gauge Hose (68 D200 31

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:33 pm
by Dirty530Garage
I'm confused... Does the line thread onto the back of the gauge or is it a barbed fitting? Mine leaks right onto my foot, so I need to fix it before it gives me a skin disorder!

Re: Replacing Mechanical Oil Pressure Gauge Hose (68 D200 31

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:53 am
by CSS-Registry
Dirty530Garage wrote:I'm confused... Does the line thread onto the back of the gauge or is it a barbed fitting? Mine leaks right onto my foot, so I need to fix it before it gives me a skin disorder!

The line threads onto the back. The rubber hose usually fails where it is crimped

Re: Replacing Mechanical Oil Pressure Gauge Hose (68 D200 31

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:38 am
by Txas2step
On 3 different trucks with the pressure gauge, I cut off the leaking hose ,cut off the compressed fitting around the tubes and used fuel rubber line and hose clamps on both ends of the factory fittings. 2 years and no leaks so far. :thinking :Thumbsup

Re: Replacing Mechanical Oil Pressure Gauge Hose (68 D200 31

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:57 am
by PwrWgnDrvr
Txas2step wrote:........I cut off the compressed fitting around the tubes.......
That's called a ferrule and its crimped onto a barb. Same way as garden hoses and air hoses are constructed.

Re: Replacing Mechanical Oil Pressure Gauge Hose (68 D200 31

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:01 am
by Txas2step
PwrWgnDrvr wrote:
Txas2step wrote:........I cut off the compressed fitting around the tubes.......
That's called a ferrule and its crimped onto a barb. Same way as garden hoses and air hoses are constructed.
Thanks Terry......only thing ferrule around here is a bunch of damn cats. :lol: :joker

Re: Replacing Mechanical Oil Pressure Gauge Hose (68 D200 31

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:02 am
by Txas2step
Txas2step wrote:
PwrWgnDrvr wrote:
Txas2step wrote:........I cut off the compressed fitting around the tubes.......
That's called a ferrule and its crimped onto a barb. Same way as garden hoses and air hoses are constructed.
Thanks Terry......only thing ferrule around here is a bunch of damn cats. ( and a few need to be crimped) :lol: :joker

Re: Replacing Mechanical Oil Pressure Gauge Hose (68 D200 31

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:25 am
by PwrWgnDrvr
:lol: