1961 to 1971 Candian serial numbers needed

[townwagon]

I think I have figured out what the factory year breaks were by serial number for the 1961 to 1971 Canadian built trucks (except 1966, which I am still working on). I have searched the archives and found a few serial numbers to check my information with and so far things line up just fine. I also checked the parts books for items that swap at a known time that have serial numbers listed in the parts book. Those also line up just fine. I would like to check a bunch more trucks so I can be sure that I'm getting good results when I use real numbers. It is not unusual to have the books say one thing and the actual trucks do something else.

Please post here or PM me a picture of your tag (or any tag you have an image of) or just your Serial Number (VIN) and I will decode it for you. If my decoding works out I will be working with Phil to get the decoder set up to decode Canadian tags which should help a lot of people in the future.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Eric

[gyman98]

W2k2s87593

I'll try and remember to get a bunch more on the weekend

[townwagon]

W2k2s87593 That is an interesting truck. That is my first Warren truck plant truck of that serial number style.

W = Power Wagon
2 = 200
K = 8 Cylinder next longest wheel base
2 = S series
S = Warren Truck Plant
87593 = sequential number from the 1969 model year. Starting number for trucks built in the US for Canadian sales was 85001 so you have the 2593 truck of that sequence.

Does that match your truck?

More numbers would be a big help. The more numbers I can test with the better I can make the decoder.
Thanks,

Eric

[gyman98]

Yes it seems too, what does S series mean? Can you tell the cab configuration?

[townwagon]

S series is what Chrysler of Canada called all trucks from 1962 to 1969. I don't know why that was the case, but every single serial number system from 1962 to 1969 includes the 2 for S series. In the US most of the manuals are labeled S series from 1962 until 1964 and some manuals are marked S series until 1966. Basically if your truck was built in Canada it should have the 2 for S series in the serial number.

The serial number you gave me had a K for the third digit and K = 8 cylinder next longest wheel base. J = 8 cylinder shortest wheel base and that is what most W200s have as the third digit. The W200 only came in one wheel base as a standard cab so I am guessing you have a crew cab and that is why it is marked as having the second longest wheel base.

Does that make sense? Do you have a 1969 W200 Crew Cab?

Eric

[gyman98]

Yep you nailed it

[townwagon]

Glad I got it right. I've been trying really hard to get these figured out so I could add them to the decoder. I still need a number off the cover of a 1966 service manual to get all the serial number breaks.

Your next number D1K2J20866 breaks down as:

D = Conventional Gasoline
1 = 100
K = 8 cylinder next longest wheel base (which in this case would be the 8 foot bed truck)
2 = S series
J = Built in Canada
20866 = Sequential number from the 1968 model year. Starting sequential number for 1968 was 100001 so you have truck 10866 of production.

[townwagon]

I meant to say the 2 for S series means it was built for Canada. Some of the 2 for S series trucks were built in the US for Canadian sale.

Eric

[gyman98]

I've got at least 3-66's I can get the vins off if you want. As well as one 69. I'll have to think about it but the others are all American trucks

[townwagon]

I'll take whatever I can get. The 1969 is the most important to what I am trying to figure out, but I would be interested in the 1966s as well. I never know what weird things come up with serial numbers until I stumble over the weird one and have to dig deeper to find the answer.

I found a US built postal van with a prefix to the serial number that wasn't in any of the books. It was weird enough that it stuck in my head and I kept searching for answers. 5 years later a friend found the answer in a sheet sent to dealers. It wasn't even in the standard books. I can't figure that sort of thing out until I know what the numbers are on real trucks.

Thanks again for all your help.

Eric

[DukePW]

If I may slightly hijack this thread for a moment, I know gyman has a lot of Canadian sweptys....

The VIN plates on the door column for Canadian trucks, are they screwed on or riveted on? I know my Fargo was screwed on when I got it, but I wasn't sure if it came that way from the factory?
I did a cab swap from a Texas truck and need to know if I'm supposed to go rivets or screws?
Thanks in advance!

[gyman98]

I'm not going to say they are always screwed on but every Canadian truck I've seen is screwed on with Phillips screws. I know that really isn't the answer you were looking for but I hope it helps.

Here's a few more vin plates, I couldn't get the doors open on a 61-65 cab and a 65 cab but here's the rest

[dodgeboykim]

I still have to get the Canadian built tags together and take pics. I will e-mail the pics to you. And I have always run into screws only for the VIN tags.

[townwagon]

Thanks for posting those pictures!

First truck:

D1B2947885

D = Conventional Gasoline
1 = 100
B = 6 cylinder next longest wheel base (that would make it an 8 foot bed)
2 = S series
9 = built in Canada
47885 = Sequential build number for 1965 1/2 variable rate suspension trucks. 1965 1/2 production started with 45001

Second truck:

D1B2971630

D = Conventional Gasoline
1 = 100
B = 6 cylinder next longest wheel base (that would make it an 8 foot bed)
2 = S series
9 = built in Canada
71630 = Sequential build number for 1966. The 1966 production start number is unknown, but 1967 serial numbers started with 75001 and 71630 is too close to that to be a 1965 1/2.

Third truck:

D1K2J32612

D = Conventional gasoline
1 = 100
K = 8 cylinder next longest wheel base (that would make it an 8 foot bed)
2 = S series
J = built in Canada
32612 = Sequential build number for 1969. 1969 sequential numbers started with 25001

Fourth truck:

D1K2956129

D = Conventional gasoline
1 = 100
K = 8 cylinder next longest wheel base (that would make it an 8 foot bed)
2 = S series
9 = made in Canada
56129 = Sequential number for 1965 1/2 or 1966. 1965 1/2 started with 45001 and 1967 started with 75001. I am not sure of the 1966 serial number break yet and until I get that I can't be sure if this is a late 1965 or a 1966.

Thanks for sharing your tags with me. If you come across any more please share them if you can. I'm getting more confident, but I still worry there is a weird one out there just waiting to trip me up.

Eric

[townwagon]

Kim, I look forward to seeing what tags you have. Thanks for being willing to share them with me.

As for the screws Vs rivets question so far all the Canadian built trucks I've seen that were in Canada had screwed on tags. The Canadian built trucks that I find here in the USA (mostly late 60s early 70s medium duty stuff) are all attached with rivets.

Eric

[townwagon]

Thanks to Kim I finally have the 1966 starting serial number.

To add to my earlier decoding:

D1K2956129

D = Conventional gasoline
1 = 100
K = 8 cylinder next longest wheel base (that would make it an 8 foot bed)
2 = S series
9 = made in Canada
56129 = Sequential number for 1966 as the starting serial serial number for 1966 was 53211

Thanks for your help Kim!

[dodgeboykim]

I try to help when possible. Your Welcome.

[rustbuckett68]

Pulled this off a truck buried in mud at a wreckers, it was stripped, but the 383HP intrigued me. Not sure on the year, but it must have been a later model.

[dodgeboykim]

Eric, Photo copies of information from manual I sent you back awhile on way in mail.

[OHENRY]

My Canadian S # is D1K2J21994 My Engine number is 2468130-8 LL ND Trans # 261-4 How does this fit in or what can it tell me re: this truck? Thanks man.