Page 1 of 1

Rain pouring into cab through vent cavities

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 7:12 pm
by 67D100Pickup
First, do those cavities below the windshield wipers where air flows to the cabin vents have a name?

It's a 67 D100.

Mine are rusted through and rain pours into the cabin.

I assume they’re supposed to drain to the ground somehow so I need to understand how that works so I can make sure those drains are clear.

Then I need to close up the rusted out steel that’s letting rain into the cabin.

The service manual doesn’t seem to have any help.

Do any of y’all have any guidance on this?

—Jeff

Re: Rain pouring into cab through vent cavities

Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 12:43 am
by PwrWgnDrvr
It drains into the engine compartment thru 2 small holes in the firewall near the hood hinges. From the factory there was a small rubber flapper over the holes. You would call that area the cowl.

Re: Rain pouring into cab through vent cavities

Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 2:23 am
by 67D100Pickup
Ok. Then we’d say the vent cowl area is rusted through to the cabin.

How might someone close up those rusted out areas in that tight space?

And what would you use? Body putty? Fiberglass?

—Jeff

Re: Rain pouring into cab through vent cavities

Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 6:01 am
by jeffc57
here is how i repaired my 62, best to repair with metal, but i have used epoxy like the 2part type, must clean and treat metal with anti-rust such as POR15 https://imageevent.com/jeffc/rust

Re: Rain pouring into cab through vent cavities

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 1:55 pm
by Wildergarten
If you are not going to replace the metal, then I'd try stripping the paint, etching with naval jelly or the equivalent, rinse it CLEAN, passivate the surface with a converter such as Fertan, then go to a slow epoxy paste with glass matting to hold it if the holes are big. Once that's all cured, I'd then apply an elastomeric coating capable of taking paint to the entire interior. Then paint.

I am not at all a fan of the factory drain system, but I haven't yet conjured what I'm going to do about it. The rubber drain inserts are easy targets for rats, who then set up house inside the cabin, including the heater.

Re: Rain pouring into cab through vent cavities

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 1:14 pm
by 67D100Pickup
jeffc57 wrote:
Sun May 07, 2023 6:01 am
here is how i repaired my 62, best to repair with metal, but i have used epoxy like the 2part type, must clean and treat metal with anti-rust such as POR15 https://imageevent.com/jeffc/rust
Wow. That is quite a repair job. I’m hoping I can seal it up and have it drain properly with less work than that appears to be.

Re: Rain pouring into cab through vent cavities

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 1:16 pm
by 67D100Pickup
Wildergarten wrote:
Mon May 08, 2023 1:55 pm
If you are not going to replace the metal, then I'd try stripping the paint, etching with naval jelly or the equivalent, rinse it CLEAN, passivate the surface with a converter such as Fertan, then go to a slow epoxy paste with glass matting to hold it if the holes are big. Once that's all cured, I'd then apply an elastomeric coating capable of taking paint to the entire interior. Then paint.

I am not at all a fan of the factory drain system, but I haven't yet conjured what I'm going to do about it. The rubber drain inserts are easy targets for rats, who then set up house inside the cabin, including the heater.
Yes, maybe that’s where the mice were getting in. I’ve already refurbished the heater but I’ve wondered where they were coming and going.

The holes I’m dealing with are like dime size. I’ll try the fiberglass approach and see how that goes.

Re: Rain pouring into cab through vent cavities

Posted: Wed May 10, 2023 6:28 am
by jeffc57
You can access the inside from the cowl by removing the cowl cover and wiper linkages, you can reach your arm down to coat the inside with whatever you choose to use, though I can not recommend fiber glass unless you rust treat inside first

Re: Rain pouring into cab through vent cavities

Posted: Wed May 10, 2023 10:24 am
by Wildergarten
67D100Pickup wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 1:16 pm
The holes I’m dealing with are like dime size. I’ll try the fiberglass approach and see how that goes.
Ditto to what jeffc57 said. Remove any putty or sealant and get that metal CLEAN, both sides.

Re: Rain pouring into cab through vent cavities

Posted: Wed May 10, 2023 11:25 pm
by PwrWgnDrvr
Sikaflex 1A and 260 primer for additional adhesion, though not required.
Read the "Application" tabs:

https://usa.sika.com/en/construction/ad ... ex-1a.html

https://usa.sika.com/en/construction/ad ... r-260.html

NOTE: the Sika sold at home centers is a lesser grade and does not perform equally to 1A

Eliminates time, effort, and equipment for mixing, filling cartridges, pre-heating or thawing, and cleaning of equipment.
Fast tack-free and final cure times.
High elasticity - cures to a tough, durable, flexible consistency with exceptional cut and tear -resistance.
Stress relaxation.
Excellent adhesion - bonds to most construction materials without a primer.
Excellent resistance to aging, weathering.
Proven in tough climates around the world.
Can be applied to green concrete 24 hours after pour
Can be applied to damp concrete 1 hour after getting wet
Odorless, non-staining.
Jet fuel resistant.
Certified to the NSF/ANSI Standard 61 for potable water.
Urethane-based; suggested by EPA for radon reduction.
Paintable with water-, oil- and rubber-based paints.
Capable of ±35% joint movement.