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Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 5:17 pm
by 67D100Pickup
I want to shore up my door locks. They haven’t worked for 23 years and the little connectors that block the door latch operation had both fallen off or been disconnected.

To start the process I stuck the key in one of them. It got stuck and I had to use WD40 and compressed air to get it back out.

I’ve heard WD40 in lock tumblers is a nono but it seemed reasonable in this case.

Everywhere I look for new ones they’re offering a different style, fatter than mine and they won’t work.

So, can a locksmith break them open and restore them? Should I inquire for new/used ones in the parts forum here? Do you know anywhere that sells the correct style or how to find them?

What would y’all suggest?

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 4:51 am
by martincom
I would think a locksmith would be able to disassemble, clean, lubricate and re-assemble. I'd start there.

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 12:12 pm
by dodgeboykim
Take them out and soak in solvent or penetrating oil.. Blow out and shoot full of lithium grease.
You might get lucky. Document missing parts and put ad in Wanted section. :thinking :thinking :salut

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 1:56 pm
by PwrWgnDrvr
dodgeboykim wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 12:12 pm
Take them out and soak in solvent or penetrating oil.. Blow out and shoot full of lithium grease.
You might get lucky. Document missing parts and put ad in Wanted section. :thinking :thinking :salut
Yes to the solvent, EXCEPT, DO NOT USE OIL OR GREASE IN A LOCK!
I've done a ton of locksmith work and grease will gum the pins and springs so bad that it would fail to work at all.
Here is some info:
>Polytetrafluoroethylene, or PTFE, is a Teflon-based lubricant that dries inside the lock to leave behind a non-stick, water-repellent film on all the surfaces. Since it's dry, it doesn't attract dust or dirt.
>https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... +of+a+lcok

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 2:50 pm
by 67D100Pickup
martincom wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 4:51 am
I would think a locksmith would be able to disassemble, clean, lubricate and re-assemble. I'd start there.
Yes, I'm going with the locksmith. Less chance I destroy them worse :-)

--Jeff

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 2:53 pm
by 67D100Pickup
PwrWgnDrvr wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 1:56 pm
dodgeboykim wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 12:12 pm
Take them out and soak in solvent or penetrating oil.. Blow out and shoot full of lithium grease.
You might get lucky. Document missing parts and put ad in Wanted section. :thinking :thinking :salut
Yes to the solvent, EXCEPT, DO NOT USE OIL OR GREASE IN A LOCK!
I've done a ton of locksmith work and grease will gum the pins and springs so bad that it would fail to work at all.
Here is some info:
>Polytetrafluoroethylene, or PTFE, is a Teflon-based lubricant that dries inside the lock to leave behind a non-stick, water-repellent film on all the surfaces. Since it's dry, it doesn't attract dust or dirt.
>https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... +of+a+lcok
I went with a locksmith on this deal but that sounds like a good product for future reference.

The locksmith thought there was a good chance the doors would take a different key from the ignition. Do y'all have same key or different keys for doors and ignition?

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 10:58 am
by BigBlockTrucks
My doors are different than the ignition in my 65 and in my 60. In later years I think both are the same key.
I pulled a pair of door locks from a truck with push button handles that matched the ignition. I’m not sure what year it was.

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 11:34 am
by dodgeboykim
67D100Pickup wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 2:53 pm
PwrWgnDrvr wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 1:56 pm
dodgeboykim wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 12:12 pm
Take them out and soak in solvent or penetrating oil.. Blow out and shoot full of lithium grease.
You might get lucky. Document missing parts and put ad in Wanted section. :thinking :thinking :salut
Yes to the solvent, EXCEPT, DO NOT USE OIL OR GREASE IN A LOCK!
I've done a ton of locksmith work and grease will gum the pins and springs so bad that it would fail to work at all.
Here is some info:
>Polytetrafluoroethylene, or PTFE, is a Teflon-based lubricant that dries inside the lock to leave behind a non-stick, water-repellent film on all the surfaces. Since it's dry, it doesn't attract dust or dirt.
>https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... +of+a+lcok
I went with a locksmith on this deal but that sounds like a good product for future reference.

The locksmith thought there was a good chance the doors would take a different key from the ignition. Do y'all have same key or different keys for doors and ignition?
Make them work first if possible and then worry about correct lubrication.
And Sweptine ignition and doors is the same. Things get changed over the years.

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 12:30 pm
by BigBlockTrucks
I stand corrected. Maybe mine have a similar problem as the original post.

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 12:33 pm
by BigBlockTrucks
dodgeboykim wrote:
Sat May 06, 2023 11:34 am
67D100Pickup wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 2:53 pm
PwrWgnDrvr wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 1:56 pm

Yes to the solvent, EXCEPT, DO NOT USE OIL OR GREASE IN A LOCK!
I've done a ton of locksmith work and grease will gum the pins and springs so bad that it would fail to work at all.
Here is some info:
>Polytetrafluoroethylene, or PTFE, is a Teflon-based lubricant that dries inside the lock to leave behind a non-stick, water-repellent film on all the surfaces. Since it's dry, it doesn't attract dust or dirt.
>https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... +of+a+lcok
I went with a locksmith on this deal but that sounds like a good product for future reference.

The locksmith thought there was a good chance the doors would take a different key from the ignition. Do y'all have same key or different keys for doors and ignition?
Make them work first if possible and then worry about correct lubrication.
And Sweptine ignition and doors is the same. Things get changed over the years.
When using the key in the door lock. Are the teeth pointed up or down?

My ignition key won’t even go all the way into the lock.

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 12:36 pm
by dodgeboykim
Up. Same as ignition.

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 9:29 pm
by nutz
if not going in all the way in keep spraying and wiggling ...unless something is stuck in it

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 1:46 pm
by BigBlockTrucks
nutz wrote:
Sun May 07, 2023 9:29 pm
if not going in all the way in keep spraying and wiggling ...unless something is stuck in it
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That has been the plan so far. Spray one day wiggle the next then rinse and repeat.
I thought about something being in there. But both are the same.
Being a fire department truck for its first 30 years I can’t help but wonder if the door locks were ever used. Probably just crusty inside.
Time and patience may prevail in the end. 🤞🤞

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Wed May 10, 2023 4:37 pm
by 67D100Pickup
BigBlockTrucks wrote:
Mon May 08, 2023 1:46 pm
nutz wrote:
Sun May 07, 2023 9:29 pm
if not going in all the way in keep spraying and wiggling ...unless something is stuck in it
E
That has been the plan so far. Spray one day wiggle the next then rinse and repeat.
I thought about something being in there. But both are the same.
Being a fire department truck for its first 30 years I can’t help but wonder if the door locks were ever used. Probably just crusty inside.
Time and patience may prevail in the end. 🤞🤞
Fire department! That's cool. Mine was Parks and Recreation maintenance. My mechanic friend has two of them, one outfitted as a tow truck. These trucks were work horses.

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Wed May 10, 2023 8:05 pm
by BigBlockTrucks
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That has been the plan so far. Spray one day wiggle the next then rinse and repeat.
I thought about something being in there. But both are the same.
Being a fire department truck for its first 30 years I can’t help but wonder if the door locks were ever used. Probably just crusty inside.
Time and patience may prevail in the end. 🤞🤞
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Fire department! That's cool. Mine was Parks and Recreation maintenance. My mechanic friend has two of them, one outfitted as a tow truck. These trucks were work horses.
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After the soak wiggle and rinse for a few days. The passenger side is working and the drivers side at least the key fits all the way in.
I used liquid wrench and patience. Next I may pull both locks and latches to work with them on the bench.

Thanks to the help from the board here.

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Wed May 10, 2023 8:26 pm
by nutz
i dont have one but one of my friends loves his
a sonic cleaner....think a small one is cheap think it would work great for something like that

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:24 am
by Papaof9nine
Have any of you replaced the door latches and handles without body work with a different type Mine have gotten very stiff and difficult to open Ihave been locked in as the door will not open The star wheel teeth have pieces chiped off from missalignment I'm guessing Also handles are stripping teeth on door Can not find replacement parts

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:44 am
by Papaof9nine
Additional question Will car latches of the 60's fit

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:34 pm
by dodgeboykim
Papaof9nine wrote:
Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:24 am
Have any of you replaced the door latches and handles without body work with a different type Mine have gotten very stiff and difficult to open Ihave been locked in as the door will not open The star wheel teeth have pieces chiped off from missalignment I'm guessing Also handles are stripping teeth on door Can not find replacement parts
Lets start with year of truck to confirm but by your comments its a 61 to early 65 truck.
. Refrigerator door handle latch assemblies can be rebuilt. Someone is doing them.
Good used inside handles can be found. If not installed correctly they will strip.
No you can't change whats there with something different without cutting and bodywork.

Re: Door lock guidance wanted

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:26 pm
by Papaof9nine
sorry it is a 62 d200