69 swept line long box to short box conversion
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69 swept line long box to short box conversion
Hi all,
This is my first post on the forum, I,ve been a member for a while now and I purchased a 69 D200 Adventurer about 2 years ago. I was looking for a short box for quite a few years but couldn't find one at a fair price here in Alberta Canada so I bought the 69 and figured I would take a shot at shorting the long box.i would post my progress pictures but every time I try it rejects them (says file to large). can someone give me some pointers on how to load them or is it possible I need to have authorization to post pictures?
Brian,
This is my first post on the forum, I,ve been a member for a while now and I purchased a 69 D200 Adventurer about 2 years ago. I was looking for a short box for quite a few years but couldn't find one at a fair price here in Alberta Canada so I bought the 69 and figured I would take a shot at shorting the long box.i would post my progress pictures but every time I try it rejects them (says file to large). can someone give me some pointers on how to load them or is it possible I need to have authorization to post pictures?
Brian,
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Re: 69 swept line long box to short box conversion
Picture posting info located here:
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1965 Dodge D200, 318 4-speed converted to 4x4 with NV4500 trans
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Re: 69 swept line long box to short box conversion
Thanks I'll give it another try.
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Re: 69 swept line long box to short box conversion
my 69 Adventurer with a 383.
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Ok
To start the truck from the cab forward is really good shape for western Canada but the box on the other hand isn't. When I got it the box had two fuel tanks it that were sandwiched between the wheel wells and the front of the box. Once I removed them there were years of dirt that was between them and the box. I found lots of rust of course along with the normal areas. On the out side of the box there were camper tie downs bolted to the side of the box and over the stress there where tears in the sheet metal that had been brazed closed. Other than that the box is straight with the exception of wheel wells and tailgate which was basically folded in half.This is why I figured I would give it a try shortening it. First I removed the floor. The first cut will be on the right side of the blue tape. next removed 5 inches. rear stake pocket and crossmember removed. drill out more spot weld to remove driver side. Separate inner and outer wall. cut off 15 inches from front. cut front rolled edge and pocket(this is from the passenger side). .tack back on(passenger side again)
To start the truck from the cab forward is really good shape for western Canada but the box on the other hand isn't. When I got it the box had two fuel tanks it that were sandwiched between the wheel wells and the front of the box. Once I removed them there were years of dirt that was between them and the box. I found lots of rust of course along with the normal areas. On the out side of the box there were camper tie downs bolted to the side of the box and over the stress there where tears in the sheet metal that had been brazed closed. Other than that the box is straight with the exception of wheel wells and tailgate which was basically folded in half.This is why I figured I would give it a try shortening it. First I removed the floor. The first cut will be on the right side of the blue tape. next removed 5 inches. rear stake pocket and crossmember removed. drill out more spot weld to remove driver side. Separate inner and outer wall. cut off 15 inches from front. cut front rolled edge and pocket(this is from the passenger side). .tack back on(passenger side again)
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Re: 69 swept line long box to short box conversion
another view. Finished weld on driver side. stitch back on the rear cap. finished weld. driver side outer skin mocked up on truck.
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Here's a few picture of my tailgate build.
this is what I could salvage from my tailgate. the bottom you see is made out of a piece 1-1/4" electrical EMT conduit it's the same diameter as the original so worked out perfect. Bottom in place. as you can see from the pictures above the side inserts were in rough shape so I had to stitch together the bottom of my original and tops from another gate. Front side done.- brikar
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Back side pictures
Back side done. finished.- Wildergarten
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Re: 69 swept line long box to short box conversion
Waow, that's one hell of a sheetmetal job! Very impressive.
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'67 W200 383 NP435 4.10 w overload springs, Dana 60, PTO winch & flatbed dump, racks, crane, c-air (Max)
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Re: 69 swept line long box to short box conversion
Very skilled, you are 15 minutes from me, we might have to get together and have a sweptline bs session. Now to take 14 inches out of the frame.
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Re: 69 swept line long box to short box conversion
Interesting! Following. Craig
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Re: 69 swept line long box to short box conversion
Thanks Guys!
Time for some rust repair before shortening the inner walls. inner rear stake pocket. main rear pocket support. Left side done. right side wasn't as bad. These are the main rear box supports that will be spot welded back into the rear pocket supports and inner stake pocket to make the assemble.They were made by a local metal fab shop and are a little thicker gauge but a perfect replication.
Time for some rust repair before shortening the inner walls. inner rear stake pocket. main rear pocket support. Left side done. right side wasn't as bad. These are the main rear box supports that will be spot welded back into the rear pocket supports and inner stake pocket to make the assemble.They were made by a local metal fab shop and are a little thicker gauge but a perfect replication.
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Very inspirational work, This gets me fired up to finish my end cap replacement on my tailgate, I have one end done and one to go.
Andy
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Whoever you have doing this bending for you is really good. Are you just taking them the peices and saying, "Make this, please"? I once had access to a Pexto shear and brake. Fun stuff.
But if you are going to repair the pocket, it looks like just less work to make the whole thing considering the time to weld and grind. Why make only one end of it?
'69 W200 (thumbnail)
'68 W200 (RIP)
'68 W200 383 NP435 3.53
'67 W200 383 NP435 4.10 w overload springs, Dana 60, PTO winch & flatbed dump, racks, crane, c-air (Max)
Mark Vande Pol
Wildergarten.org
'68 W200 (RIP)
'68 W200 383 NP435 3.53
'67 W200 383 NP435 4.10 w overload springs, Dana 60, PTO winch & flatbed dump, racks, crane, c-air (Max)
Mark Vande Pol
Wildergarten.org
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Re: 69 swept line long box to short box conversion
all the bending I do myself other than the last picture of the main supports. I have a cheap little 18" bender that I,ve been using that has worked up until now and some auto body dollies and hammers. some of the Pieces I could probable get made but most of the pieces so far have contours and radius bends that a shop wouldn't be able to do with a brake so with lots of determination and enginuity I,m getting it done, and of course My time is free and I have lots of it.
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Bless you, a real American. Pretty much the same situation here, albeit in addition to the welder with a 1/2" plate table, I do have a lathe. For a break, I've been doing the old angle iron, vise, and hammers routine. Ya get there, but there's coffee involved. Sure was nice to have a shear and a brake though. It's good to have a shop.
'69 W200 (thumbnail)
'68 W200 (RIP)
'68 W200 383 NP435 3.53
'67 W200 383 NP435 4.10 w overload springs, Dana 60, PTO winch & flatbed dump, racks, crane, c-air (Max)
Mark Vande Pol
Wildergarten.org
'68 W200 (RIP)
'68 W200 383 NP435 3.53
'67 W200 383 NP435 4.10 w overload springs, Dana 60, PTO winch & flatbed dump, racks, crane, c-air (Max)
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Re: 69 swept line long box to short box conversion
Thought he was a real Canadian, eh?Wildergarten wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:28 pmBless you, a real American. Pretty much the same situation here, albeit in addition to the welder with a 1/2" plate table, I do have a lathe. For a break, I've been doing the old angle iron, vise, and hammers routine. Ya get there, but there's coffee involved. Sure was nice to have a shear and a brake though. It's good to have a shop.
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Yeah, that is pretty funny.
Of course, everyone in the Hemisphere is an American!
'69 W200 (thumbnail)
'68 W200 (RIP)
'68 W200 383 NP435 3.53
'67 W200 383 NP435 4.10 w overload springs, Dana 60, PTO winch & flatbed dump, racks, crane, c-air (Max)
Mark Vande Pol
Wildergarten.org
'68 W200 (RIP)
'68 W200 383 NP435 3.53
'67 W200 383 NP435 4.10 w overload springs, Dana 60, PTO winch & flatbed dump, racks, crane, c-air (Max)
Mark Vande Pol
Wildergarten.org
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Re: 69 swept line long box to short box conversion
To Be specific,
I'm a Central Albertan in the country of Canada in the northern part of the North American continent. Born And Raised
I'm a Central Albertan in the country of Canada in the northern part of the North American continent. Born And Raised
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Yep, you're a great North American. It was pretty funny.
I spent several months in Canada at my last job installing machinery for a process I'd invented and developed. Really appreciated how clean public areas were. The factory had great people working hard to make things happen. Management and the Ontario Hydro bureaucracy not so much. What I really didn't appreciate was the border control cops at the airport wondering if they should prevent my entry because I might be taking somebody's job, when in fact what I'd done was making gobs of jobs for Canadians. I'd been told to lie to them, but I just wanted to see how all that worked. Took about a half hour to get through.
'69 W200 (thumbnail)
'68 W200 (RIP)
'68 W200 383 NP435 3.53
'67 W200 383 NP435 4.10 w overload springs, Dana 60, PTO winch & flatbed dump, racks, crane, c-air (Max)
Mark Vande Pol
Wildergarten.org
'68 W200 (RIP)
'68 W200 383 NP435 3.53
'67 W200 383 NP435 4.10 w overload springs, Dana 60, PTO winch & flatbed dump, racks, crane, c-air (Max)
Mark Vande Pol
Wildergarten.org