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1972 D500 front brake parts
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:57 pm
by Boomer
Hello everyone, first post - trying to help a friend find parts for his 72 D500 flatbed (canadian delivery vehicle apparently). Used the front brakes, and then they went down the toilet. Upon removal and inspection, all the hardware fell out and was completely shot. Was able to buy new wheel cylinders from NAPA but missing a few critical parts. Currently searching for the pins that extend from the wheel cylinders, as well as the shoe hardware kit with cable. Is this something I will be able to find locally, or are there part numbers that I can search up/cross reference from other vehicles that would work?
Re: 1972 D500 front brake parts
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:46 pm
by 712edf
I have FSM for 1974 & it might have some useful numbers. I will check it & post my findings here in a few hours.
Bucky
Re: 1972 D500 front brake parts
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:15 am
by 712edf
Well I wasn't able to find out anything. No parts numbers & just a couple of diagrams that I wasn't even for certain were for your particular front axle.
I believe your D500 shares the same front brake components with the D600 & S600(school bus) provided they are 6 stud Budd style wheels & not the Dayton style.
Here are a few specs just for reference. I know it's not what you were looking for. Keep in mind these are for 1974 & may not apply to 1972. The cabs switched. The steering box location switched. I am not sure what changed concerning the actual running gear.
Drum is 14"x2.5", make is Bendix. Duo-servo, single wheel cylinder per wheel. Cylinder bore is 1.063", front shoe arc is 111 degree, rear shoe arc is 123 degrees. Thickness is .258"
You may ask over on ramchargercentral, either of the power wagon sites or possible look at what Ford folks say, as sometimes their F600 used similar if not identical components on medium duty truck axles.
These medium duty trucks were most common in the midwest, as grain trucks. Some are still being used today.
Sorry that I wasn't of any help.
Best of luck on your search.
Bucky
Re: 1972 D500 front brake parts
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 2:38 pm
by dodgeboykim
I have a 70 D500 and found all my brake parts at a Medium/Heavy Duty truck parts supplier. Dodge was not the only one to use those brake systems.
Re: 1972 D500 front brake parts
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:08 pm
by Boomer
712edf wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:15 am
Well I wasn't able to find out anything. No parts numbers & just a couple of diagrams that I wasn't even for certain were for your particular front axle.
I believe your D500 shares the same front brake components with the D600 & S600(school bus) provided they are 6 stud Budd style wheels & not the Dayton style.
Here are a few specs just for reference. I know it's not what you were looking for. Keep in mind these are for 1974 & may not apply to 1972. The cabs switched. The steering box location switched. I am not sure what changed concerning the actual running gear.
Drum is 14"x2.5", make is Bendix. Duo-servo, single wheel cylinder per wheel. Cylinder bore is 1.063", front shoe arc is 111 degree, rear shoe arc is 123 degrees. Thickness is .258"
You may ask over on ramchargercentral, either of the power wagon sites or possible look at what Ford folks say, as
sometimes their F600 used similar if not identical components on medium duty truck axles.
These medium duty trucks were most common in the midwest, as grain trucks. Some are still being used today.
Sorry that I wasn't of any help.
Best of luck on your search.
Bucky
Its the 5x8 lug pattern - we tried taking them to a heavy truck place and they were no help. I believe there is a motor home that has a disk axle that swaps, but the extent of my knowledge is that it exists and nothing further.
The rear end is a big ol square tube thing though. Im not totally sure what axles are under this.
Re: 1972 D500 front brake parts
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:30 pm
by 712edf
The only 5 lug Budd that I am aware of are the D400 trucks & M400 motor homes. I could see the motor homes having front disc brakes.
It being 5 lug probably means those specs I gave in my original post may be invalid.
Square tube rear axle is Rockwell. Standard fare in medium dutys.
Bucky
Re: 1972 D500 front brake parts
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 12:43 pm
by dodgeboykim
712edf wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:30 pm
The only 5 lug Budd that I am aware of are the D400 trucks & M400 motor homes. I could see the motor homes having front disc brakes.
It being 5 lug probably means those specs I gave in my original post may be invalid.
Square tube rear axle is Rockwell. Standard fare in medium dutys.
Bucky
I agree. 400 series are 5 lug and my 500 is 6 lug. The 5 lug 400 series are an abnormality.
Re: 1972 D500 front brake parts
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:55 pm
by Boomer
So what are my options for replacement stuff? because we cant find anything.
Re: 1972 D500 front brake parts
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:28 pm
by Wildergarten
Boomer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:55 pm
So what are my options for replacement stuff? because we cant find anything.
https://www.jgrelining.com/
Re: 1972 D500 front brake parts
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:51 pm
by Boomer
this will be great when we redo the pads, but the wheel cylinders are shot, all the hardware rusted and fell apart. Need that stuff first
Re: 1972 D500 front brake parts
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:18 pm
by 712edf
Patrick66 on this forum recently redid the brakes on a 300 series truck and said it was not cheap. Maybe you could PM him about where he sourced his wheel cylinders from. Hopefully the company would be able to come up with D500 brake parts.
Bucky
Re: 1972 D500 front brake parts
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:23 pm
by PwrWgnDrvr
Boomer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:51 pm
this will be great when we redo the pads, but the wheel cylinders are shot, all the hardware rusted and fell apart. Need that stuff first
In your first post you said you got new cylinders from Napa. Now you say they're shot. Which is it?
Is it a 5 lug axle or 6 lug? If its 5, it is NOT a D500 axle!
I had no problem finding all the same stuff for a 2 ton IH axle 2 years ago.
Re: 1972 D500 front brake parts
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:00 pm
by Boomer
PwrWgnDrvr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:23 pm
Boomer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 4:51 pm
this will be great when we redo the pads, but the wheel cylinders are shot, all the hardware rusted and fell apart. Need that stuff first
In your first post you said you got new cylinders from Napa. Now you say they're shot. Which is it?
Is it a 5 lug axle or 6 lug? If its 5, it is NOT a D500 axle!
I had no problem finding all the same stuff for a 2 ton IH axle 2 years ago.
its the 5x8 lug pattern - we have wheel cylinders for the front in a box, but doesnt mean I dont need more - need good reliable sources. Shoes, spring kit, seals, the rust claimed a lot of things. I know the shoes are 2 inches wide.
Re: 1972 D500 front brake parts
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:51 am
by soopernaut
The 72 medium duty brochure lists a 5 lug wheel as standard for a D500 and a 6 lug as optional.