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Lowering my d100

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:23 pm
by Mikelindley
I keep hearing about bumpstop. Not sure what it is for sure except maybe if you hit a bump the oil pan hits the drag link??? I have my front end off and I am fixing to remove some leafs from the springs. Every one says you can get 3” drop with no issues??? I have 6.5 inches from
Tire to fender, but the steering bar that runs from hub to hub by the axle is only 3 3/4 inches below the oil pan. No way will 3/4” be enough room.....Help!!!!

Re: Lowering my d100

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:09 pm
by earlymopar
Beneath your oil pan is the tie rod not the drag link. What engine does your truck have and how many leafs do you have now? You are far better off to have your stock dropped axle dropped further than removing leaf springs.

- EM

Re: Lowering my d100

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:22 pm
by Hobcobble
Welcome to the site! :welcome :usa

The term is actually bump steer and it is associated with changing your
steering geometry from factory specifications to "something else". As your
vehicle enters a suspension stroke, there is a tendency for the wheels to
want to steer themselves. This can range from a "jolt" in the steering wheel
during a suspension stroke to something more violent that can jerk the
wheel from your grip. It potentially puts you, any passengers and any other motorists
or pedestrians in your vicinity in danger. I'd suggest doing a bit of research :study
on this before yanking out springs from your packs and winding up in a ditch. :idea :2cents
John

Re: Lowering my d100

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:08 am
by earlymopar
I don't think he had gotten to that point yet. It seems he was talking about hitting the bump stops on the frame that make contact with the top of the axle just above the spring mount. This is a legitimate concern but he may very well make oil pan to tie rod contact before that.

- EM

Re: Lowering my d100

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:45 am
by PwrWgnDrvr
earlymopar wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:08 am
I don't think he had gotten to that point yet. It seems he was talking about hitting the bump stops on the frame that make contact with the top of the axle just above the spring mount. This is a legitimate concern but he may very well make oil pan to tie rod contact before that.

- EM
It will hit the rubber bump stop on the frame BEFORE hitting the tie rod. That's the whole point of having the bump stop, otherwise, there would be no point for it and it would be a factory design flaw.

Re: Lowering my d100

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:21 am
by earlymopar
Yes, that's normally correct but if he has a non OEM engine or non OEM engine mounts and the oil pan to tie rod distance is less than stock, then contact there is likely before hitting bump frame bump stops.

- EM

Re: Lowering my d100

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:02 pm
by Hobcobble
earlymopar wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:08 am
I don't think he had gotten to that point yet. It seems he was talking about hitting the bump stops on the frame that make contact with the top of the axle just above the spring mount. This is a legitimate concern but he may very well make oil pan to tie rod contact before that.

- EM
Hear you on the bump stop issue. I think if leafs start coming out of those packs, he's risking
more than just one difficulty. :pale :2cents

John

Re: Lowering my d100

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:32 pm
by Mikelindley
Thanks for all the input. I read all the forums and many said to remove leafs 2 and 4 and get a 3 inch drop with no issue, we’ll not true. I removed 2 and 5 to get less drop to be safe and leveled the back by removing 3 leafs out of a 5 pack and my 66 rides like crap. Floats around, body roll and doesn’t steer very good in corners. I have a call into SIDS and I will start over. What do I do with the rear to drop it correctly after the SIDS 3” drop axle. Thanks again for the help!

Re: Lowering my d100

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:36 pm
by PwrWgnDrvr
My 66 lowered itself without any trouble at all - when the Cummins 6bt was installed :lol:

Re: Lowering my d100

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:06 am
by BigJimG
Mikelindley wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:32 pm
Thanks for all the input. I read all the forums and many said to remove leafs 2 and 4 and get a 3 inch drop with no issue, we’ll not true. I removed 2 and 5 to get less drop to be safe and leveled the back by removing 3 leafs out of a 5 pack and my 66 rides like crap. Floats around, body roll and doesn’t steer very good in corners. I have a call into SIDS and I will start over. What do I do with the rear to drop it correctly after the SIDS 3” drop axle. Thanks again for the help!
The easiest for the rear is to do an axle flip, and place your axle above the rear springs. The drop would be equal to the thickness of the spring pack and 1/2 the diameter of the axle tube. You will need to move/weld on new spring perches, and modify your shock mounts.

Re: Lowering my d100

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:07 am
by Mikelindley
Trying to grasp 1/2 of the axle. Seems like the distance would equal the spring pack plus the whole axle width?i would measure from the top of the spring pack where it sits now to the bottom of the axle where it would sit after the flip???? Correct?

Re: Lowering my d100

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:44 am
by BigJimG
Mikelindley wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:07 am
Trying to grasp 1/2 of the axle. Seems like the distance would equal the spring pack plus the whole axle width?i would measure from the top of the spring pack where it sits now to the bottom of the axle where it would sit after the flip???? Correct?
Ride height would be measured at axle center. In a spring over configuration, everything below the axle center has no effect upon ride height. In a spring under configuration, everything above the axle center has no effect on ride height.

Re: Lowering my d100

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:20 am
by Ypanic2
rear axle flip on mine dropped it 4.75 inches. measured at the rear fender.
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Re: Lowering my d100

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:46 am
by earlymopar
You can get a simple, quick and inexpensive 3" drop with these rear shackle drops:


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I think I paid $40 at a regular auto parts store.

- EM