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Re: new box power steering

Postby Conrad » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:26 am

Ordered and fingers crossed.

I think what I'll do now is to keep the OG /6 springs in place, adding shackles to address their falling apart. Then work on getting the new springs re-worked and the '71 axle to Sids for a small drop. If I had planned this out better, would have gone about this better in the first place.
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Re: new box power steering

Postby Commando66 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:08 pm

I called CPP and they said that the kit is in stock for $499. The universal hose kit is extra. Summit Racing now has the part# in their system for $539.
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Re: new box power steering

Postby Galevin » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:31 am

Found this
1965-1977 Dodge Pickup Reverse Rotation Power Steering Gear Box [LARES 997]
http://vi.vipr.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAP ... cureDesc=0
Can I swap out my manual steering box for this, add a pump, hoses and belt and use this or is the cpp kit the way to go?
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Re: new box power steering

Postby soopernaut » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:56 pm

Galevin wrote:Found this
1965-1977 Dodge Pickup Reverse Rotation Power Steering Gear Box [LARES 997]
http://vi.vipr.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAP ... cureDesc=0
Can I swap out my manual steering box for this, add a pump, hoses and belt and use this or is the cpp kit the way to go?
Thanks
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The 61-71 trucks never had a separate box for power steering. It was just an power assist and used the same box as the manual trucks. The title of that ad is a little misleading since the steering gear is only for 72-77 trucks. This is based on the information at the bottom of the ad.
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Re: new box power steering

Postby Galevin » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:32 pm

I’ve noticed the complaints with the CPP power steering boxes in which the wheel was tough to turn standing still.
There has to be a power steering box off a similar car that can be adapted to fit our sweptlines? I had an old 34 Chev Rat rod with 6BT 12 valve cummins that needed power steering and I ordered an electric power steering unit for it. Literally you had to cut the steering column insert the electric unit in the column and then reinstall. Unit was $1800 and took a buddy of mine about 3-4 days to fab. But when done it was perfect. There has to be another similar power steering box off another make/model and/or year that can be adapted to give us power steering all the time, not just in motion. Need some help here as my installer is ready to install but we are lost at the moment. Thanks
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Re: new box power steering

Postby soopernaut » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:01 pm

Galevin wrote:There has to be a power steering box off a similar car that can be adapted to fit our sweptlines? Gerald


There are a lot of older posts about this subject. People added P/S before any kit came out. There is a Toyota 4x4 box and a Ford truck box that have been used.
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Re: new box power steering

Postby Galevin » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:30 pm

My installer thought a ford van power steering box that he saw a while back would work. Anyone recall specifically what years and makes of Ford and Toyota’s power steering boxes were used? Really appreciate the help. And yes I have been searching on this site....but there is a ton of info here and it’s hard to find.
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Re: new box power steering

Postby Kaegi » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:26 am

I think the cpp box is a Toyota box. they cant handle the weight. toytoa boxes are little wimpy things.
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Re: new box power steering

Postby Galevin » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:40 am

After 10+ hours of addt research I’ve ordered the cpp kit. Expected to arrive next week. Even if it’s hard to turn at a dead stop it’s got to be better than what I currently have. Anyone here install a pressure regulator that enables the power steering at a stop and then would be adjusted (manually? automatically?) at higher speeds?
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Re: new box power steering

Postby Conrad » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:55 pm

You can buy a custom power steering pump valve for delivering different flow/presdure and pressure limited.

If you have a manual you can probably rev it up to increase pressure. If you have an automatic you might be able to engineer an RPM triggered solenoid to cut pressure above certain revs.

I had a Scamp 318 that would whine a little in the driveway but was feather-weight on the highway. It was annoying so I added more caster but didn't get as far as managing flow-pressure before selling it.
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