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My 65 d-100 needs new kinpins. I Do not want to damage anything. Do you think it would make sense to remove the entire axle assembly bring it into a machine shop and have them install them along with
the bushings. I am not worried about saving a few dollars.

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There's no need to remove the axle. When you get the brake stuff off and your just looking at the hub, on top of the king pin unit there is a round metal disc that needs to come out, along with the bolt alon the side that holds the King Pin in place. Remove these two things and use a drift to tap out the old King Pin. Take the hub assembly to the machine shop and have them press in the new bearings and ream them to fit the new King Pin. Go back home and re-assemble.

If you take the axle in you'll want to get new U-bolts to re-attach the axle, since it's not too safe to use the old U-bolts.

And I don't care what anybody else says, them front axles are HEAVY. Hernia comes to mind when I think about doing what you want to do. :lol:

I did my first set a year or so ago with 0 experience. If I can do it, anybody can do it! :Thumbsup

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Thank you, someone finally using their head. To me thats the only way to do it. Its the way Howard was done, although I admit that now days I have to pay a shop to do the work. Jim
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Thanks for the information. I will let you know how it turns out. A local shop wanted over $600 to do the job.I think in the slow economy thay are starting to overcharge.

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Over charge, boy howdy! I know it won't be $600 to press the new bushings in and ream them to fit the new king pins. Should be less than $75 and that's high, if you just bring in the spindles and put it back together yourself. Shop around a little if there are other machine shops around.

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what is a brass drift? My manual states to use one but where do I find one or purchase one...

Thanks...

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Drift = punch. I would think you find them at any auto parts store? :thinking I thinkI just used an large old bolt and tapped them out. I don't have a bunch of fancy tools, I'm more like a a monkey with a rock. :lol:

Here are some pictures that might help you a bit. (Look at the bottom picture first, then middle, then top)

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Thanks for all your hard work. It looks fairly simple. My vehicle is so coated in past greasings that you cannot even see any of the bolts. Now I know what to look for. First step will be to wire brush the working areas. Will let you know How I progress.

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I need to do this too. :banghead

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I hear you on the grease build up. The one in the picture is my 62 and all those parts in the pictures didn't match what my book said until I removed the old grease. :pale

Good luck on the rebuild. :Thumbsup

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I jobbed my kingpins out. I remember beating the ones out of my '52... not a pleasant experience. I thougth I'd give a local guy a shot since he had all of the stuff to do the job right including reaming the bushings. I paid too much, but saved myself a headache. It tracks better now, to say the least.

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Was it over $200? thats what im wondering. I refuse to pay a crap load for $50 of parts to get installed...... it looks like a PITA though. :censored

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Disassembly is fairly easy. If you're comfortable working on vehicles, kingpins are simple job.

My local machine shop charged $35 a side to press in the bushings and ream them for the new kingpin.

Reassembly was easy as well.

If it's running, a trip to the local wand wash makes things MUCH easier!!
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I got the king pins out.......Yes... I Will post some photos in a few days once she is together. Other than cleaning 44 years of grease accumulation it was very easy. The drivers side king pin was in a lot tighter than than passangers side. The brass drift was fairly distorted driving out the drivers side. The passenger side I could push out the king pin by hand. That was side making all the noise I did not have to use any heat, just a lot of PB Blaster and some time. Monday I will take the spindles to the maching shop and put it back together. I did have two questions.

1 is it possible to install the new king pins thru the top it seems It be easier to install or does the spindle have some king of taper preventing it from being installed that way?

2 since I have not moved the steering wheel and assuming that it does not move will I need to have the wheels alligned?

Thanks for all the help. This has saved me close to $600.00 The shop owner made it sound like a major project. I did both sides in about 2 hours.

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Its only major to your wallet to take it to a shop. Jim
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I think i may be taking mine apart in the driveway too then. That will give me a chance to investigate the noisy lifter too. :salut

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The driveway is cheaper... trust me. Let me know if you need a hand... or a bigger hammer.

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rd200 wrote:I got the king pins out.......Yes... I Will post some photos in a few days once she is together. Other than cleaning 44 years of grease accumulation it was very easy. The drivers side king pin was in a lot tighter than than passangers side. The brass drift was fairly distorted driving out the drivers side. The passenger side I could push out the king pin by hand. That was side making all the noise I did not have to use any heat, just a lot of PB Blaster and some time. Monday I will take the spindles to the maching shop and put it back together. I did have two questions.

1 is it possible to install the new king pins thru the top it seems It be easier to install or does the spindle have some king of taper preventing it from being installed that way?

2 since I have not moved the steering wheel and assuming that it does not move will I need to have the wheels alligned?

Thanks for all the help. This has saved me close to $600.00 The shop owner made it sound like a major project. I did both sides in about 2 hours.
1. That's the way I put mine back in. The King pins aren't taperd.

2. Hmmm... Did you adjust the tie rod any when you removed it? If not it might be fine, but it wouldn't hurt if it went in for an alignment.

Yeah, not too major of a project. :Thumbsup

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Just intalled the king pin set and put it all back together after picking up the spindles from the machine shop. The whole project was about $160.00 in parts. A lot better than the $600.00 plus parts estimate from the auto shop. This repair job was very easy. After putting it all together. I took it out for a test drive went over a few bumps and the right side was still making a large clunking noise. The king pins, shocks and tie rod ends were worn and so I thought they were all contributing to the noise. Since those are now new I had to look at other possible items. I had the wife jump up and down on bumper KINDA SEXY... and looking underneath THE BUMPER...That is... discovered one of the frame mounting bolts had backed off by about 1/2 inch. Tightened that up and the noise went away. I could have swore it was the front wheel...but anyway the front end is now rebuilt... Now on to the next two items, starter replacement and carb rebuild.

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Excellent!!! :Thumbsup

Glad everything worked out well!

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