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Automatic transmission

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Many time swept owner first time on the board. After owning and parting out a dozen or so, I have yet to see an auto in a w series. Did dodge ever make a power wagon without a clutch pedal?
Late 65 w 200.
Factory LU-2 winch.
Updates: 205 transfer case,4.10 gears, disc brake Dana 60 front with lock out hubs
440 repower in the works

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383 with 727
4 wheel disc
3.73 geared rear

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Re: Automatic transmission

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Welcome to the site. :welcome :Thumbsup
I've yet to see any W100 or W200 earlier than '69 with an automatic.
The '69-'71 W100/200s came with them. :study

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Hobcobble wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:44 pm
Welcome to the site. :welcome :Thumbsup
I've yet to see any W100 or W200 earlier than '69 with an automatic.
The '69-'71 W100/200s came with them. :study

John

In 1969 the transfer case was moved towards rear end from transmission making room for an automatic with a short tail shaft and driveshaft to connect to T Case.. I looked at putting an automatic into my 66 W100 many years ago and felt it was gong to be a bit too much work.
My truck is younger than me.
66 W100. 70 D 500 , 69 Hiab Speed Loader. 96 Ram 3500 Club Cab Cummin's 5 spd. 97 Ram 1500 Club Cab 5.9 gas auto. 83 W200 LB Propane 360 auto 09 Yammy Rhino 700.

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Re: Automatic transmission

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Mine is a late 65 w 200, and I am debating on auto or 4 speed to go behind a 440. I have the auto with park brake from the motor home where the engine came from. I don’t think there is enough room to put that 727 between the engine and transfer.
Late 65 w 200.
Factory LU-2 winch.
Updates: 205 transfer case,4.10 gears, disc brake Dana 60 front with lock out hubs
440 repower in the works

60 d100
383 with 727
4 wheel disc
3.73 geared rear

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BigBlockTrucks wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:22 pm
Mine is a late 65 w 200, and I am debating on auto or 4 speed to go behind a 440. I have the auto with park brake from the motor home where the engine came from. I don’t think there is enough room to put that 727 between the engine and transfer.
I'm sure you know that if you are planning to do a 440 / auto as a 4 X 4 you'll be cutting the main crossmember, which with a manual takes up the bulk of the torque from the motor. So without it, you'll be putting a LOT of twist into the frame from the front mounts alone, with less reaction stiffness in the frame and with all that torque going into the t-case. I've seen a 2bbl 383 crunch the mounting isolators on an NP201. Nor is the support for that t-case terribly beefy (the 'bridge' across the top can crack at the apex). So what's your plan to manage all that crank with so little torsional stiffness? Sure hope you plan to strap those front engine mounts. I've torn those out with annoying frequency with only a 318!

Edit: So I went and did a little sleuthing. Poly-Loc mounts are SPENDY, but they murder a potentially catastrophic problem: https://p-s-t.com/i-23160496-polyloc-motor-mounts.html It would take some fab work to make the car mounts fit though.
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BigBlockTrucks wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:22 pm
Mine is a late 65 w 200, and I am debating on auto or 4 speed to go behind a 440. I have the auto with park brake from the motor home where the engine came from. I don’t think there is enough room to put that 727 between the engine and transfer.
You might need to research a short tail shaft, sans parking brake, and determine
if you'd have enough room to stuff it between the 440 and t-case. Does your '65 W200
have its own parking brake on the t-case already?.... Your current bell housing cross
member would have to be removed, leaving the "stubs" for the leaf spring perches
and the holes that are provided to install a spanner to tie the stubs together under
the 727. There's more to do to accomplish the task.... but first things first.... :study

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Not that I’m looking to put an auto in my truck more that I’m looking at the options. The bb bell and flyweel aren’t cheap. Thought It may be easier to go auto and sell the 4 speed stuff. And so it turns out, I was wrong. 4 speed is the way to go
Late 65 w 200.
Factory LU-2 winch.
Updates: 205 transfer case,4.10 gears, disc brake Dana 60 front with lock out hubs
440 repower in the works

60 d100
383 with 727
4 wheel disc
3.73 geared rear

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I know everyone here loves to see pics (me included). My brain isn’t computer friendly so it may take a bit to post pics.
Late 65 w 200.
Factory LU-2 winch.
Updates: 205 transfer case,4.10 gears, disc brake Dana 60 front with lock out hubs
440 repower in the works

60 d100
383 with 727
4 wheel disc
3.73 geared rear

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Re: Automatic transmission

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Until then... it’s a late 65 former brush truck from local FD LU-2 front mount winch and almost no other options.
Late 65 w 200.
Factory LU-2 winch.
Updates: 205 transfer case,4.10 gears, disc brake Dana 60 front with lock out hubs
440 repower in the works

60 d100
383 with 727
4 wheel disc
3.73 geared rear

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Re: Automatic transmission

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BigBlockTrucks wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:23 pm
Until then... it’s a late 65 former brush truck from local FD LU-2 front mount winch and almost no other options.
Is it a local truck? Just curious.
I see you live in the hometown
of McIntosh Audio Equipment. :Thumbsup

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Re: Automatic transmission

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Hobcobble wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:32 pm
BigBlockTrucks wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:23 pm
Until then... it’s a late 65 former brush truck from local FD LU-2 front mount winch and almost no other options.
Is it a local truck? Just curious.
I see you live in the hometown
of McIntosh Audio Equipment. :Thumbsup

John
Former brush truck from endwell ny just down the road from me.
Late 65 w 200.
Factory LU-2 winch.
Updates: 205 transfer case,4.10 gears, disc brake Dana 60 front with lock out hubs
440 repower in the works

60 d100
383 with 727
4 wheel disc
3.73 geared rear

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Re: Automatic transmission

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The mechanical BB bell is even more costly than they hydro BB bell.

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BigBlockTrucks wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:56 pm
Former brush truck from endwell ny just down the road from me.
Just from the town's name it came from..... you have good karma
going for you. :clap

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PwrWgnDrvr wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:52 pm
The mechanical BB bell is even more costly than they hydro BB bell.
I’m going with the hydro bell. I have most of the pieces and it’s much easier than the automatic idea. Thanks for all the info everyone!
I will post more as I make progress.
Late 65 w 200.
Factory LU-2 winch.
Updates: 205 transfer case,4.10 gears, disc brake Dana 60 front with lock out hubs
440 repower in the works

60 d100
383 with 727
4 wheel disc
3.73 geared rear

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