Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
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Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
I am going to try to pick up a LA 360 to do as a build over the next few months for my 69 d100 with a np435.
I know about the external balance vs internal and need a 360 balancer. I think I will need a different flywheel that is also balanced. That is fine since I will do a new clutch at the same time. Motor mount difference I will just to a few extra washers as spacers.
Questions that I have:
Should I do a 143 or 130 tooth flywheel?
Do the accessories from the 318 bolt right up? Alternator is all I will have. Will the bracket from the 318 fit?
Anything I am missing?
I will do a mild performance cam rebuild on the 360.
I know about the external balance vs internal and need a 360 balancer. I think I will need a different flywheel that is also balanced. That is fine since I will do a new clutch at the same time. Motor mount difference I will just to a few extra washers as spacers.
Questions that I have:
Should I do a 143 or 130 tooth flywheel?
Do the accessories from the 318 bolt right up? Alternator is all I will have. Will the bracket from the 318 fit?
Anything I am missing?
I will do a mild performance cam rebuild on the 360.
1969 D100 LWB 318 np435
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Re: Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
Flywheel choice is dictated by bell housing. So whatever is in truck behind current 318 for diameter and tooth count you will have to use but will need to be balanced for the 360.
And the 360 you plan on using should already have correct harmonic balancer on it and it may or may not have hole in crankshaft for pilot bushing or hole depth.
And the 360 you plan on using should already have correct harmonic balancer on it and it may or may not have hole in crankshaft for pilot bushing or hole depth.
My truck is younger than me.
66 W100. 70 D 500 , 69 Hiab Speed Loader. 96 Ram 3500 Club Cab Cummin's 5 spd. 97 Ram 1500 Club Cab 5.9 gas auto. 83 W200 LB Propane 360 auto 09 Yammy Rhino 700.
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Re: Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
Accessories all work if I remember right. I recall having to actually cut apart flip and weld one engine mount to get it to work.
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Re: Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
My 69 318 w/np435 has a 143 tooth flywheel.dodgeboykim wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:38 pmFlywheel choice is dictated by bell housing. So whatever is in truck behind current 318 for diameter and tooth count you will have to use but will need to be balanced for the 360.
And the 360 you plan on using should already have correct harmonic balancer on it and it may or may not have hole in crankshaft for pilot bushing or hole depth.
I have a mini starter on my 69 already. So does the tooth count matter still, or just size.
1969 D100 LWB 318 np435
2001 2500 SWB 5.9 Cummins nv5600
2016 3500 SWB 6.7 Cummins 68RFE
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2016 3500 SWB 6.7 Cummins 68RFE
Re: Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
I may be wrong but cant you take the 318 flywheel that you have and have it drilled by a machine shop to be correct for a 360?
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Re: Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
I have heard you can have a machine shop make it external balance. There seems to be a diagram somewhere that shows what to drill but I can’t find it on the inter web.
There is also this https://www.summitracing.com/parts/qti-rm-531 which is supposed to do the same thing.
There is also this https://www.summitracing.com/parts/qti-rm-531 which is supposed to do the same thing.
1969 D100 LWB 318 np435
2001 2500 SWB 5.9 Cummins nv5600
2016 3500 SWB 6.7 Cummins 68RFE
2001 2500 SWB 5.9 Cummins nv5600
2016 3500 SWB 6.7 Cummins 68RFE
Re: Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
I bought my 360 flywheel from Brewers. Now they have a refurb for 200 bucks. Not sure what a machine shop would charge to drill your flywheel.
If you google dodge 360 flywheel you will come across the diagram in images. With the measurements etc.
I don't think I could get myself to trust that bolt on gizmo even though it may work just fine.
If you google dodge 360 flywheel you will come across the diagram in images. With the measurements etc.
I don't think I could get myself to trust that bolt on gizmo even though it may work just fine.
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Re: Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
stumblinhorse wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:03 pmMy 69 318 w/np435 has a 143 tooth flywheel.dodgeboykim wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:38 pmFlywheel choice is dictated by bell housing. So whatever is in truck behind current 318 for diameter and tooth count you will have to use but will need to be balanced for the 360.
And the 360 you plan on using should already have correct harmonic balancer on it and it may or may not have hole in crankshaft for pilot bushing or hole depth.
I have a mini starter on my 69 already. So does the tooth count matter still, or just size.
Wouldn't a 130 tooth flywheel be smaller in diameter due to less teeth with the starter not meshing with flywheel teeth when engaging.
My truck is younger than me.
66 W100. 70 D 500 , 69 Hiab Speed Loader. 96 Ram 3500 Club Cab Cummin's 5 spd. 97 Ram 1500 Club Cab 5.9 gas auto. 83 W200 LB Propane 360 auto 09 Yammy Rhino 700.
66 W100. 70 D 500 , 69 Hiab Speed Loader. 96 Ram 3500 Club Cab Cummin's 5 spd. 97 Ram 1500 Club Cab 5.9 gas auto. 83 W200 LB Propane 360 auto 09 Yammy Rhino 700.
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Re: Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
The 130 tooth flywheel is for the 833 transmission. It was mainly used in cars but trucks did have an 833OD offered in the late 70's. Yes it is smaller diameter.
You want the 143 tooth flywheel. It fits the bell of the 435 that was behind the 318.
Yes the LA318 flywheel can be balanced to work with a LA360.
Bucky
You want the 143 tooth flywheel. It fits the bell of the 435 that was behind the 318.
Yes the LA318 flywheel can be balanced to work with a LA360.
Bucky
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Re: Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
I have been looking for the diagram or info to convert a 318 flywheel to externally balanced to give to a machine shop?712edf wrote: ↑Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:18 pmThe 130 tooth flywheel is for the 833 transmission. It was mainly used in cars but trucks did have an 833OD offered in the late 70's. Yes it is smaller diameter.
You want the 143 tooth flywheel. It fits the bell of the 435 that was behind the 318.
Yes the LA318 flywheel can be balanced to work with a LA360.
Bucky
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Re: Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
Ive seen the diagram, back when JimmieD and MoparNorm were alive. Its a complex bit of machine work and may be more costly than purchasing the correct flywheel new, unless they're not available.
Re: Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
Type "dodge 360 flywheel" in google and then go to images and several diagrams are there with all the numbers. But yeah it might be more than buying one.
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Re: Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
I've just had my flywheel balanced to 360 specs. I have a new 172 tooth flywheel and was charged $550au to balance, machine and drill to suit clutch.
Bit more than what i was expecting but couldn't do much as needed it.
Bit more than what i was expecting but couldn't do much as needed it.
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Re: Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
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Re: Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
That's just over $415 in US currency. Still higher than I would have guessed.
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Re: Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
Maybe stroker 390 for my 318 is the way to.
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Re: Picking up a LA 360 for a 69 d100
The shop had never done a truck one before and were hesitant to do it. I guess thats why i got screwed a bit.
But can't fault the workmanship.
But can't fault the workmanship.