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New, occasional clutch/grinding problem

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:00 pm
by wally426ci
68 D100 NP435 hydraulic system sleeved with stainless, McLeod diaphragm clutch - no issues until last week

I'm typically cool with the standard, worn Chinese parts diagnosis. However, I have a recent problem that I suspect is not this issue. No issues on my recent trip TO Carlisle at an hour and a half. While I was there, a new problem arose. I was shifting like normal and ground when going into 4th.

I Hated it and it didn't happen again until my trip home through the country side. I had a 2nd and third instance again.

Yesterday it happened again. Before I went on the trip, I topped the master which really didn't need it but I was going over everyrthing for a smooth trip. So far, no fluid missing from the clutch master.

I pulled the inspection plate on the bell housing and it was moist with gear oil but not a horrible mess. I replaced the front shaft seal in 2011 or so and I am praying that this "new?" leak isn't the cause...... friggin nightmare to yank tranny. I don't know if I remember a leak before the trip..... :thinking I do see that the bottom of trans is "wet" in apperance now.

Any suggestions?

Re: New, occasional clutch/grinding problem

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:09 am
by Txas2step
Hey Shawn, sorry to here you are having a problem. Is it making any noise? Maybe a synchro. bad? Have you tried dbl clutch into 4th? Can you tell if the leak is from the input shaft area ?. Hope it's nothing serious. Chris.

Re: New, occasional clutch/grinding problem

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:15 am
by wally426ci
Thanks Chris. HAven't double clutched. It looks to be leaking around the "plate" outside of the shaft itself (maybe 4" diameter with bolts through face?)

I won't have much time for the next couple weeks but I'll get to it and dig around. I welcome comments until then! :salut

*EDIT: if I pull the top cover, is there anything I would see to point to a bad synchro?

Re: New, occasional clutch/grinding problem

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:06 pm
by 712edf
That "plate" is the input bearing retainer. It could be leaking outside of that (gasket) or the inside (seal).

Bucky

Re: New, occasional clutch/grinding problem

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:08 am
by wally426ci
Thanks Bucky; didn't have the official name. Bummed about the issue but I think I will see if I can narrow it down but cleaning everything. May pull the top cover and check out the gear/synchros.

Re: New, occasional clutch/grinding problem

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:14 am
by 63Dodge
As stated above, it could be leaking from those two places but the grinding concerns me. Could be a front bearing in the trans. going down and causing all the problems. Be careful how far out you go.

Re: New, occasional clutch/grinding problem

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:31 am
by wally426ci
Agreed. Not looking forward to yanking tranny again :pale

Re: New, occasional clutch/grinding problem

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:06 am
by PwrWgnDrvr
Just drive it til it breaks then fix it.

Re: New, occasional clutch/grinding problem

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:29 pm
by wally426ci
I was waiting for you Terry!!

I'll see how it goes. I just hate having issues :joker