Grand Cherokee Axle Swap
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Grand Cherokee Axle Swap
I'm swapping out my tapered axle for a 98 Grand Cherokee rear end with the disc brakes. I've searched and haven't found any write ups on doing it, and was curious if anybody knows where I can get some feedback or write ups. I'm more concerned with how they ran their brake lines.
Thanks in advance
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Re: Grand Cherokee Axle Swap
Has anybody done this?
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Re: Grand Cherokee Axle Swap
I can't think of a reason it shouldn't work, driveshaft length may change, as long as the overall width isn't too far out, the brakes would be the least of my concern. Keep us posted.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Axle Swap
Actually I'm doing this right now, and everything is working out remarkably perfect. I have now removed off all the original Cherokee brackets and have welded the new perches on, and everything is perfect, the only thing I see is the U-Joints and U-joint straps may need to be used from the Cherokee.?
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Re: Grand Cherokee Axle Swap
If you have a good driveline shop near, call them and see if there is a crossover joint that will mate your driveshaft to the cherokee diff. If not, you're making a driveshaft.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Axle Swap
The rear axle from a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee is not a desireable axle in either of its forms. The Dana 35 and the Dana 44A are both weak choices when you are looking to upgrade anything. Neither will stand up to much abuse. The 44A is an aluminum housing Dana 44 and is much weaker than a cast iron or steel Dana 44. If youre only doing it for disc brakes there are better choices out there that have the same bolt pattern and similar width. In the Jeep community the Ford 8.8 from a later Explorer is equipped with disc brakes and has available limited slip and is MUCH stronger than the 98 ZJ axle youre installing. Im not sure what you want your end result to be though, so this is just FYI and trying to help. Good luck.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Axle Swap
Thanks for the help. I am actually an early mustang fanatic, and have several 8" rear ends sitting on the side of my house which were an option, but I wanted disc brakes, I also went against the explorer rear end due to it being too small for one, and it being an off set driveline and is more trouble than it's worth. I picked this axle up for $100, sold the original for $50, and was well worth the cost and labor to have a limited slip, disc brakes, and a perfect fit with little modification other than the removal of the original brackets and had to order the Cherokee ubolt. Lastly, lol, I am only running the original 225 slant six, which is not going to exceed any torque or HP for that axle. I do plan to later install an EFI V8, but again, my engine choice isn't going to exceed the limit; I build my mustangs for performance.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Axle Swap
Dont confuse the 8.8 and 8 inch rear ends. they are different animals. The Explorer 8.8 is actually a couple inches narrower than the Grand axle. I understand you should be fine but just wanted you to have all the info. Which Grand axle do you have by the way? The 44 or the 35? Just wondering.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Axle Swap
Wouldn't it just be easier to put disc's on your 8 3/4"? As mentioned the only rear from a Jeep that I would consider would be the Chrysler 8 1/4" for strength.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Axle Swap
It's the DANA44 steel.
I got the axle for so cheap, any disc brake kit would cost far more than what I paid. The original was the tapered design and sucked it from the back, so I sold it. This axle will far exceed my setup in the strength department.
I got the axle for so cheap, any disc brake kit would cost far more than what I paid. The original was the tapered design and sucked it from the back, so I sold it. This axle will far exceed my setup in the strength department.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Axle Swap
I am not sure why it happens, but the grand cherokee rear axles, particularly if its from a 4.0L model seem prone to burning up(i assume thats the dana 35, i assume the v8 grands have the 44). I parted out 2 grands, a zj and a wj, and had a lot of calls for a 4.0 rear axle.
Just an fyi
Not sure if it would even fit a dodge, but a few months ago i got an explorer 8.8 with disc brakes and posi at the pick a part junk yard for 125$, in case anyone else is considering the swap(i understand its a little too late for this project, just throwing it out there)
Just an fyi
Not sure if it would even fit a dodge, but a few months ago i got an explorer 8.8 with disc brakes and posi at the pick a part junk yard for 125$, in case anyone else is considering the swap(i understand its a little too late for this project, just throwing it out there)
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Re: Grand Cherokee Axle Swap
just use the discs from the GC axle - they should bolt up to your 8 3/4 axle but you may need to switch to the green bearings.
google it - someone did it already and put a great how-to out there somewhere.
Ben
google it - someone did it already and put a great how-to out there somewhere.
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here's a few photos (note - the 8.25 chrysler axle uses the same backing plate bolt pattern as an 8 3/4 and GC)
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/zj-r ... th-607435/
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I don't think you could get around the tapered axles thou? Right? That was the main purpose for me.
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What size rotors do the Jeeps use? Looks like there only 9"......kind of small for a full size truck, no?
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you could probably switch out the axles with later sweptline truck axles and use the jeep backing plate on your housing. "measure twice cut once".HAIRYBIKINI wrote:I don't think you could get around the tapered axles thou? Right? That was the main purpose for me.
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I believe you are correct with the 9". These are plenty big, my tundra is similar in size. The truck will be used more for crusing than utility anyways. This is mile stones better than the original old drums all around, with a single master cylinder. It may not excelerate fast but it sure will stop fast!swptln wrote:What size rotors do the Jeeps use? Looks like there only 9"......kind of small for a full size truck, no?
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I think I came out with the cheapest and least amount of labor.CSS-Registry wrote:you could probably switch out the axles with later sweptline truck axles and use the jeep backing plate on your housing. "measure twice cut once".HAIRYBIKINI wrote:I don't think you could get around the tapered axles thou? Right? That was the main purpose for me.
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I hope your right, but I would think your pickup weighs a good 2000 lbs. more than a Cherokee........HAIRYBIKINI wrote:I believe you are correct with the 9". These are plenty big, my tundra is similar in size. The truck will be used more for crusing than utility anyways. This is mile stones better than the original old drums all around, with a single master cylinder. It may not excelerate fast but it sure will stop fast!swptln wrote:What size rotors do the Jeeps use? Looks like there only 9"......kind of small for a full size truck, no?
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A 98 Jeep Grand Cherokee weighs 3,582 to 3,740 lb according to Google. That is what a D100 weighs.swptln wrote:I hope your right, but I would think your pickup weighs a good 2000 lbs. more than a Cherokee........HAIRYBIKINI wrote:I believe you are correct with the 9". These are plenty big, my tundra is similar in size. The truck will be used more for crusing than utility anyways. This is mile stones better than the original old drums all around, with a single master cylinder. It may not excelerate fast but it sure will stop fast!swptln wrote:What size rotors do the Jeeps use? Looks like there only 9"......kind of small for a full size truck, no?