Correct valvecover for 70 383?
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Correct valvecover for 70 383?
Anyone have a photo of the correct, factory installed valvecover on a 70 383. I'm pretty sure my right VC is original however the left one has some sparkplug wire looms on it that I'm not so sure about. They look like something a Motorhome may have had. I want this truck correct when I put the engine back together.
Sheldon
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Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
Find the casting/part number on the valve cover in question.. I'll look it up for you in my book!
Also, I have a 68 383 if you want pictures of those covers I'll post em.
Also, I have a 68 383 if you want pictures of those covers I'll post em.
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1968 D200 Camper Special 383ci 727 PwrSteering
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Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
I'm not a expert on this but it would make sense to have two wire loom brackets on each side to clear the center dump of the exhaust manifold.
Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
What you're describing is correct. I have a '69 & 'a 71 Sweptlineruncharger wrote:Anyone have a photo of the correct, factory installed valvecover on a 70 383. I'm pretty sure my right VC is original however the left one has some sparkplug wire looms on it that I'm not so sure about. They look like something a Motorhome may have had. I want this truck correct when I put the engine back together.
Sheldon
383 with the exact same set up.
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Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
Hola There
Here is a photo of a engine with Valve Cover's
that have the Spark Plug Holding Loom as you
described. Take note of the Exhaust Manifold
design too.
This design was used for several years and
divisions.
The 300 and larger series trucks with the 361
or 413 used a differant design Valve Cover
( and they do bolt to your engine's heads ).
Rodger & Gabby
COS
Here is a photo of a engine with Valve Cover's
that have the Spark Plug Holding Loom as you
described. Take note of the Exhaust Manifold
design too.
This design was used for several years and
divisions.
The 300 and larger series trucks with the 361
or 413 used a differant design Valve Cover
( and they do bolt to your engine's heads ).
Rodger & Gabby
COS
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Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
Rodger,Rodger wrote:Hola There
Here is a photo of a engine with Valve Cover's
that have the Spark Plug Holding Loom as you
described. Take note of the Exhaust Manifold
design too.
This design was used for several years and
divisions.
The 300 and larger series trucks with the 361
or 413 used a differant design Valve Cover
( and they do bolt to your engine's heads ).
Rodger & Gabby
COS
Those valve covers in your "Imperial" picture, although
the proper fit, weren't used on the '70 Dodge Sweptline
383..... I'm pretty certain about it. If anyone
knows differently, please advise.
John
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Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
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Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
I've got 70 w/383. Roger's picture is about right with the only exception being the 70 does not have the front cable support. They are on the back. Jim
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Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
Cable meaning spark plug wires? I think the main question was the right side valveJimE wrote:I've got 70 w/383. Roger's picture is about right with the only exception being the 70 does not have the front cable support. They are on the back. Jim
cover not having a plug wire loom.... which neither set of valve covers on my '69
& '71 have. I'll get another look at mine to confirm. This is an item that could
have been easily changed when the engines were assembled too.... just food
for thought.... Keep the information coming.
Thanks for that link Rodger.
John
Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
Can't say for certain about the 70's.
These were off my 68 W 200 with the 383
68 W200 383/727 Dynatrac 35 spline 4.10 limited slip rear end
68 D200 CS {parts for the '68 W200}
71 D200 CS ADVENTURER{parting out
79 B200 van with 'crate' 360/360hp 3.23 Auburn limited slip
73 CJ5 304V-8 Metal Cab
"They ain't pretty But they're paid for"!
68 D200 CS {parts for the '68 W200}
71 D200 CS ADVENTURER{parting out
79 B200 van with 'crate' 360/360hp 3.23 Auburn limited slip
73 CJ5 304V-8 Metal Cab
"They ain't pretty But they're paid for"!
Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
AND THESE are on my 71 383 D200
68 W200 383/727 Dynatrac 35 spline 4.10 limited slip rear end
68 D200 CS {parts for the '68 W200}
71 D200 CS ADVENTURER{parting out
79 B200 van with 'crate' 360/360hp 3.23 Auburn limited slip
73 CJ5 304V-8 Metal Cab
"They ain't pretty But they're paid for"!
68 D200 CS {parts for the '68 W200}
71 D200 CS ADVENTURER{parting out
79 B200 van with 'crate' 360/360hp 3.23 Auburn limited slip
73 CJ5 304V-8 Metal Cab
"They ain't pretty But they're paid for"!
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Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
Reason's
On this subject I speak from my learnings in the
Imperial Car Division.
Some one realized that if the Spark Plug Wires
were re-routed so that a mechanic could re-
move the Valve Cover without having to re-
move the Spark Plug Wires, they could save a
few minutes of time ( since all to not graduate
with honours, these mechanics did not need
to make sure # 5 wire was being routed to
the correct location as they were finishing ).
I have the 1969 383 Truck information which
some one posted once and fell into the "wrong
year information" for a 1970 383 Dodge
Truck.
I like the learning from this site.
Rodger & Gabby
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On this subject I speak from my learnings in the
Imperial Car Division.
Some one realized that if the Spark Plug Wires
were re-routed so that a mechanic could re-
move the Valve Cover without having to re-
move the Spark Plug Wires, they could save a
few minutes of time ( since all to not graduate
with honours, these mechanics did not need
to make sure # 5 wire was being routed to
the correct location as they were finishing ).
I have the 1969 383 Truck information which
some one posted once and fell into the "wrong
year information" for a 1970 383 Dodge
Truck.
I like the learning from this site.
Rodger & Gabby
COS
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Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
Thanks a lot for the help guys. It looks like I have the correct covers. Here are photos of the right and left covers.
Sheldon
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Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
From what I've seen on period R motors in the yard this is what they had if they had A/C.MOPAT wrote:
Can't say for certain about the 70's.
These were off my 68 W 200 with the 383
If they didn't have a/c I've seen several variations, but the one Sweptline that I would think was the most original had 1,3 and 5 routed in front of the valve cover and back, with loom holders beside the thermostat housing, at the lower front of the head, and between 1 and 3. & routed over the manifold and behind the valve cover as the manifold dump was between 5 and 7.
70 D200 Camper Special 383/727/4:10/AC/PS/PB
74 Trailduster 318/727/NP203/3.55/PS/PB
75 Duster 225/904/PS
76 D300 Adventurer Sport 440/727/4:10/AC/PS/PB/Cruise
74 Trailduster 318/727/NP203/3.55/PS/PB
75 Duster 225/904/PS
76 D300 Adventurer Sport 440/727/4:10/AC/PS/PB/Cruise
Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
Here's JeffC's '68 383.
http://imageevent.com/jeffc/jeffcsmopar ... =4&s=0&z=2
I'm not sure the valve covers are stone stock.... maybe
Jeff can fill us in. If so.... yet another version.
John
http://imageevent.com/jeffc/jeffcsmopar ... =4&s=0&z=2
I'm not sure the valve covers are stone stock.... maybe
Jeff can fill us in. If so.... yet another version.
John
Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
Yours are correct right down to the Chrysler Blue.runcharger wrote:Thanks a lot for the help guys. It looks like I have the correct covers. Here are photos of the right and left covers.
Sheldon
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Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
In 68 the 383's had factory red valvecovers,and I forget what color for 440 and I think 360's are blue? Not sure. I'll look it up; mine still have factory red paint, this motor has never been rebuilt.. I'll post a picture for fun, since everyone else is! lol
EDIT:
OK for factory paint color, just for fun and in case anyone is interested, someone told me this about OEM engine/valcecover colors:
Does this match up with your guys' experience? Might be useful info..
1961-1963:
* 170- Yellow
* 225- Yellow
* 251- Silver
* 318 Poly- Turquoise
* 361-Turquoise
* 413-Turquoise
1964-1965:
* 170-Red
* 225-Red
* 318 Poly-Turquoise
* 361-Turquoise
* 413-Turquoise
1966-1967:
* 170-Red
* 225-Red
* 273-Red
* 318 Poly-Red
* 318 LA-Red (1967)
* 361-Turquoise
* 383-Red (1967)
* 413-Turquoise
1968-1969
* 170-Red
* 225-Red
* 318-Red
* 361-Turquoise
* 383-Red
* 413-Turquoise
1970+
* All Blue
My VC's look just like those black ones a few posts back, except red.. Creds for info to MrValiant!
EDIT:
OK for factory paint color, just for fun and in case anyone is interested, someone told me this about OEM engine/valcecover colors:
Does this match up with your guys' experience? Might be useful info..
1961-1963:
* 170- Yellow
* 225- Yellow
* 251- Silver
* 318 Poly- Turquoise
* 361-Turquoise
* 413-Turquoise
1964-1965:
* 170-Red
* 225-Red
* 318 Poly-Turquoise
* 361-Turquoise
* 413-Turquoise
1966-1967:
* 170-Red
* 225-Red
* 273-Red
* 318 Poly-Red
* 318 LA-Red (1967)
* 361-Turquoise
* 383-Red (1967)
* 413-Turquoise
1968-1969
* 170-Red
* 225-Red
* 318-Red
* 361-Turquoise
* 383-Red
* 413-Turquoise
1970+
* All Blue
My VC's look just like those black ones a few posts back, except red.. Creds for info to MrValiant!
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Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
If I'm not mistaken that rig was not originally a 383. I think Jeff told me that's a later engine.Hobcobble wrote:Here's JeffC's '68 383.
http://imageevent.com/jeffc/jeffcsmopar ... =4&s=0&z=2
I'm not sure the valve covers are stone stock.... maybe
Jeff can fill us in. If so.... yet another version.
John
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PTO winch
4.10 powerlock
8R19.5 tires
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'67 W200/450 CID
AA OD/SM465/205
PTO winch
4.10 powerlock
8R19.5 tires
Re: Correct valvecover for 70 383?
I looked on my black ones and couldn't find ANY blue paint
68 W200 383/727 Dynatrac 35 spline 4.10 limited slip rear end
68 D200 CS {parts for the '68 W200}
71 D200 CS ADVENTURER{parting out
79 B200 van with 'crate' 360/360hp 3.23 Auburn limited slip
73 CJ5 304V-8 Metal Cab
"They ain't pretty But they're paid for"!
68 D200 CS {parts for the '68 W200}
71 D200 CS ADVENTURER{parting out
79 B200 van with 'crate' 360/360hp 3.23 Auburn limited slip
73 CJ5 304V-8 Metal Cab
"They ain't pretty But they're paid for"!