Considering a 64 Crew

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Considering a 64 Crew

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I am looking at possibly picking up this 64 Crew cab and I wanted to solicit opinions. It seems to be in good condition, mostly rust free, it runs although it might need a motor rebuild or replacement, 4 speed 318. Has PS and PB I'm told. What should I look for for problems?
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Hi Mark :welcome :usa
Rust Areas:
1)Floorboards [look closely under floor mat!]
2)Cab mounts
3)Cowl & vent box area
4)Rocker panels
5)Front core support
6)Box floor
7)Drip rails around windshield
8)Doors
9)Cab pillars around door hinges

I'm sure more folks will add to this list.
The power steering system should be checked
for leaking hoses. This "assist" set up is notorious
for leakage. I'm not even sure if that PS set up would
have come as stock equipment on a W series Sweptline? :thinking
I'm sure someone will chime in on this. Look closely at all the
drive line mechanicals. Find out what the axle gear ratio is to
see if it suits your usage needs. I would try to get more information
on the engine too. If it needs to be replaced, an A or LA 318 isn't
tough to find for it. :Thumbsup Look at the wiring to see if you're
facing a big rat's nest nightmare... :lol: See what electricals do
currently function. Look at the cooling system.... good or bad
radiator??..... Does the hydraulic clutch work correctly? Do the
brakes work? There will undoubtedly be plenty of issues that will
need to be addressed and repaired. Fixing up a 49 year old truck
isn't a cheap venture..... I'm sure plenty of other folks will add
more information to this.
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Re: Considering a 64 Crew

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Re: Considering a 64 Crew

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Usually, on the early W series Sweptlines, the emergency brake
drum would be on the transfer case. I see a drum on the transmission
in the pic. :thinking Is there a drum on the transfer case too?
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The power assist steering was an option on some of the W series trucks. My '66 W300 has a Garrison power assist system, which actually works pretty well, although it does leak like a sieve.

It has a poly 318, which would have been the original type 318 for that year. It really depends on how cheap you can get it for.

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The online parts book shows no power steering for W series trucks. The 70 brochure mentions it as an option on D series trucks but not W series. With the trucks being as old as they are, anyone could have added anything to them over the years. I suppose someone could have also special ordered anything too.

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The original owner's manual for my '66 W300 has a reference to power steering (extra equipment), so I think it was an option on the W series trucks. Mine has a Garrison brand system. I've seen a couple of W300s and W500s with the power assist system.

Rare, but they are out there.

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So the truck got sold to someone else. I hope my asking questions here didn't spur someone here to seek out and buy MY truck... ;-)

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jack wrote:The original owner's manual for my '66 W300 has a reference to power steering (extra equipment), so I think it was an option on the W series trucks.
Doesn't the owners manual cover all 100-300 trucks, including 2 wheel drive?

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Yes. The owner's manual covers D and W series as does the factory repair manual.

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jack wrote:Yes. The owner's manual covers D and W series as does the factory repair manual.
That would be why it includes power steering.

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Umm, yeah, that's probably why... So I guess we agree to disagree. Apparently, you're certain that Dodge never offered power steering on the W series, but I'm not sure why you believe that.

I have a '66 W300 with a Garrison power steering assist system. I've seen the setup on at least two other W300s and a couple of W500s. Yes, it's possible that these systems were dealer installed only or installed by some vendor or??. However, given that power steering was an option on, at least, the D series trucks, and the Garrison system was used on W series trucks based on observational evidence, it seems plausible that it could've been a factory option.

I've seen no evidence other than what your wrote in your earlier post to support your claim that Dodge never installed power steering on the W series trucks. However, with that said, my only evidence is observational (the system is on my truck and I"ve seen others with it), so I could be wrong on my claim.

I'm willing to be convinced otherwise (not that it really matters much one way or the other).

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I have 2 different SERT numbers in my list for W500s with power steering. To me that means it wasn't available equipment but had to be special ordered. Remember they would build anything you wanted but that doesn't necessarily mean it was a standard option. I have nothing for W300s in my list but do remember at least one with it.

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Maybe we're misunderstanding each other. In your last post, I interpret it to mean that power steering was available from the factory for the W series, but it had to be specially ordered. Did I understand that correctly? If so, I think we are in agreement. I was trying to convey in my earlier posts that power steering was a factory option for the W series, not necessarily that it was a standard option. And clearly it wasn't, given the rarity of power steering on the W series trucks.

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Well a SERT number indicates the truck was removed from the assembly line to have a non-standard item added. The trucks that had an extended frame(early crew cab long bed) had SERT numbers but the conversion was done by another company. Some SERT items were probably installed by Chrysler at the factory. If being able to order something and Chrysler building what you ordered makes everything on the list "an option", then yes anything could be an option. There are rumors of a 426 Hemi truck and WD claims to have seen the build sheet for this truck. Does that make the Hemi an option?

The odd thing is looking through the Power Wagon brochures they mention power brakes as an option and you would think power steering would be mentioned along with it. I cannot find any mention of power steering on anything that relates to a 61-71 Power Wagon.

It is much easier to prove that something was an option than not an option.

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Good info. You've convinced me.

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