Dana 44F closed Knuckle locking hubs

scoutski · Post by **scoutski** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:27 am

The Warn locking hubs on my 68 W200 are about shot. Is there any place where I can get a kit to rebuild the ones I have. Or, if anyone has a good set that they want to part with? Trade?
Bill

Post by **POWWAG** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:15 pm

You should be able to get parts from Warn. I'm running "Selectro" hubs that haven't been built for years. Mile Marker now owns them and sold me parts.

Later.....Don

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:25 pm

I looked up Warn on the net but they don't sell to the public. I have a feeling that parts are not sold for these old hubs anymore. But I will keep looking.

cudajimmy · Post by **cudajimmy** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:24 pm

Any parts store should be able to help you. I sell WARN and MILEMARKER. My truck has IH lockouts on it. I had one off this weekend looking for a wobble, and they seem to be built to the hilt.

WD · Post by WD » Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:52 am

I could still get parts for a set on a 1946 CJ2A. Selectro hubs for a Spicer model 41 front axle. Push come to shove, go to a 4X4 shop. I can get parts for Marmon Herrington conversions from several of the local shops, so Dana 44 hubs should be a piece of cake. Even for a closd knuckle axle.
-WD

scoutski · Post by **scoutski** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:23 am

I have several scouts with IH (Warn) and one of them has Mile Marker on it. I measured them and they are all to small to fit the 44F closed knuckle.
I pulled the ones off the 44F and the tips of the splines on the clutch ring are shreaded off. and the clutch screw has the tips of the threads broken off. These appear to be the sacrifical parts of the hub assy.

MOPAT · Post by **MOPAT** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:41 am

I got new Warn hubs at my local NAPA store or are ya wanting the type with the bars that ya flip over?

Pat

BTW these were for MY 68 W200.

scoutski · Post by **scoutski** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:31 am

Mopat, I will try my local NAPA. They probably have a source for them. I was trying to avoid buying a new set as I would like to rebuild the ones I have.
Bill

MOPAT · Post by **MOPAT** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:34 am

just hope ur Napa partsman is better than Trey's.
pat

You might try Warn's web site for info.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue May 03, 2005 7:00 am

I replaced the hubs on my 69 W100 last year. The set I used are Warn p/n 20990. Got them at Auto-Zone for $89. These have the chrome outer part, but I think they have an even cheaper set. The local 4X4 store had a re-build kit but it only had some "O" rings and other small parts.

mudguts · Post by **mudguts** » Thu May 05, 2005 8:43 pm

I've got a 67W200, it's got the 44 up front but I don't know what the F or the closed knuckle means. Could someone please explain?
Thanks

scoutski · Post by **scoutski** » Sat May 07, 2005 5:13 am

I am not sure about this, but the "F" is for "FRONT".
The "closed knuckle" is simply that the universal joints for the front drive axles are enclosed in a ball and socket arrangement. Thus,closed knuckle joint as opposed to the open arrangement on the later front 4X4 axles.
Bill

mudguts · Post by **mudguts** » Sat May 07, 2005 7:20 am

That makes sense, thanks scoutski

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue May 17, 2005 5:15 am

>>I pulled the ones off the 44F and the tips of the splines on the clutch ring are shreaded off. and the clutch screw has the tips of the threads broken off. These appear to be the sacrifical parts of the hub assy.<<

Those parts aren't "sacrificial", sounds like the hub was incorrectly adjusted (when the selector dial was set to 'FREE', it was still partially engaged). Since only the tips of the splines were sheared, it was probably only one pin off. You have to pull all the drive pins out, set the dial to 'FREE', bottom the ring and then turn it back out just enough to get the drive pins in. The broken screw threads are a mystery to me. There shouldn't be any load on them, only on the clutch splines and the drive pins. Maybe someone tried to pound/pry the hub off of there without removing the snap ring first???

Tufftruck · Post by **Tufftruck** » Tue May 31, 2005 5:18 pm

Scoutski:
I have a complete 69 W-200 Dana 44 front end for sale. You can E-mail me at pll943@sbcglobal.net I am going on vacation and should be back at the end of June. If you are interested let me know, I will let it go cheap.

scoutski · Post by **scoutski** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:32 am

All I need is the front hubs. If you are willing to part it out. If not, then how much is cheap. Depending on your location shipping might/would be prohibitive.
Bill

digdoug · Post by **digdoug** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:14 pm

Bill, what is the number on the face of your hub "clutch''M-7 ? M 15 E ? Is the hub part good,but the clutch part bad?

scoutski · Post by **scoutski** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:39 am

The hubs are good. The "clutch ring" is the part that I need. I will have to take them back off to get a number. I used a dremmel tool and very carefully reshaped the face of the clutch rings. Reassembled them and the are working but I had to remove about 1/8" of the splines to get them back in shape. The next time I pull them off I'll get a number.
Bill

digdoug · Post by **digdoug** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:44 pm

The number should be on the face of the dial.

MOPAT · Post by **MOPAT** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:03 pm

scoutski

so what are ya REALLY looking for? The stock closed knuckle unit or an open knuckle unit to replace them with? Seems Norm had a post re a 84 or 85 open knuckle unit (whole front end) to replace the ckossed kuckle unit!

Pat

I used a Warn unit from NAPA to put new outer hubs on my 68 W200 for less that $100,00. In replace of the 'turn bar' units.

Pat

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