brakes and steering
brakes and steering
do any of you guys know of someone who makes disc brake conversions for a w200 and power steering conversions
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Re: brakes and steering
Easiest way to get front discs is to swap in an Dana 44 from an 81-84 W250.
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Re: brakes and steering
Better yet do yourself a favor and go with a dana 60 front.
1989 Ramcharger LE 318/727 2wd (For Sale)
"FUBAR"1971 Fargo D-100 LA 318/727 Auto
"SNAFU"1968 Fargo W-200 POWERWAGON 383/Np 435 4 speed/Np 202 T-case.Dana 60 rear Dana 44 front
"FUBAR"1971 Fargo D-100 LA 318/727 Auto
"SNAFU"1968 Fargo W-200 POWERWAGON 383/Np 435 4 speed/Np 202 T-case.Dana 60 rear Dana 44 front
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Re: brakes and steering
If one was to make the shift to a 80's Dana 44 or 60 how do you bolt it up to the steering box? Do they use the same pitman arm, spring perches, etc?
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Re: brakes and steering
Front leaf springs are same lenght eye to eye. I installed a 92' dana 60Cummins springs and all, but the 44 is much less expensive and easer to find.
The first article in the powerwagon section is a great one. Has great pictures and detail.
Their is no bolt on style kits for Power steering. A few of us have built our own power steering kits. Mine is to box the frame ahead of the axle and install a 78-79 ford 3/4 ton box. I used a pitman arm that swings between the frame and springs. It's a push pull set up, but works very nice. A few of the guys have greatly improved on my idea and built cross over steering using the same box and clocking the pitman are differantly.
depending on the height of your truck and how much room you have between turned tire and frame, some guys have used the 70's-93 power box and bolted to the out side of the frame ahead of the axle, this is a push pull set up just like the factory did from 72-93. GM also used this for about 20 years.
Another great way to mount a box is to use a late 80's- early 90's Nissan box from a Pathfinder or Hardbody in front of the axle on the outside. The box is a mirror image of the ford box I used. Very heavy duty for import box and they can be had pretty cheap at pull'in saves. Still a push pull set up.
Others have used a ford and or toyota box in the factory location behind the axle on the inside of the frame.
Search this section and the suspension section and you find lots of articles.
The first article in the powerwagon section is a great one. Has great pictures and detail.
Their is no bolt on style kits for Power steering. A few of us have built our own power steering kits. Mine is to box the frame ahead of the axle and install a 78-79 ford 3/4 ton box. I used a pitman arm that swings between the frame and springs. It's a push pull set up, but works very nice. A few of the guys have greatly improved on my idea and built cross over steering using the same box and clocking the pitman are differantly.
depending on the height of your truck and how much room you have between turned tire and frame, some guys have used the 70's-93 power box and bolted to the out side of the frame ahead of the axle, this is a push pull set up just like the factory did from 72-93. GM also used this for about 20 years.
Another great way to mount a box is to use a late 80's- early 90's Nissan box from a Pathfinder or Hardbody in front of the axle on the outside. The box is a mirror image of the ford box I used. Very heavy duty for import box and they can be had pretty cheap at pull'in saves. Still a push pull set up.
Others have used a ford and or toyota box in the factory location behind the axle on the inside of the frame.
Search this section and the suspension section and you find lots of articles.
Jimmy
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Re: brakes and steering
My 93 Dana 60 front is currently hooked up to the same pitman arm using a swedged end tube and Heim joints in place of the original drag link.
The only mod I needed to do to put it into my 71 was change the brake hoses and weld the shock mounts to the front of the axle tube.
The only mod I needed to do to put it into my 71 was change the brake hoses and weld the shock mounts to the front of the axle tube.
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Re: brakes and steering
1966 W500
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1978 W200 club cab
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Re: brakes and steering
So it would be simpler to stick with the manual box? I'm OK with that. I just worry about making a mistake on such a crucial safety component.
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Re: brakes and steering
Simpler yes..... I've never considered manual steering itself less safe than power assisted steering. Vehicles had manual steering for decades, on cruddy roads that were much worse than what we have today. But speeds were slower too.NewcastleHoward wrote:So it would be simpler to stick with the manual box? I'm OK with that. I just worry about making a mistake on such a crucial safety component.
A big problem with manual steering today is nobody is used to it anymore. They are used to the quicker/easier responding systems of modern vehicles...... In an way, automakers have taken the "driver" out of the car. Computers control everything.
Bigger tires make manual steering a booger bear at slow speeds.
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Re: brakes and steering
If you plan to do any more than mild offroading.....Powersteering is going to be a must.
1989 Ramcharger LE 318/727 2wd (For Sale)
"FUBAR"1971 Fargo D-100 LA 318/727 Auto
"SNAFU"1968 Fargo W-200 POWERWAGON 383/Np 435 4 speed/Np 202 T-case.Dana 60 rear Dana 44 front
"FUBAR"1971 Fargo D-100 LA 318/727 Auto
"SNAFU"1968 Fargo W-200 POWERWAGON 383/Np 435 4 speed/Np 202 T-case.Dana 60 rear Dana 44 front
Re: brakes and steering
This is where we Sweptliners get our upper body workout.712edf wrote: Bigger tires make manual steering a booger bear at slow speeds.
Bucky
Even something as mundane as parallel parking becomes a chore with 35 inch mudders on a non-PS Swepty.
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Re: brakes and steering
I'm used to driving the 46'-68' PW's with 900-16's so I think I'll stick to manual steering.
Re: brakes and steering
I'm with you on that Howard.NewcastleHoward wrote:I'm used to driving the 46'-68' PW's with 900-16's so I think I'll stick to manual steering.
John
Re: brakes and steering
Me too! I have a PS set ready to install in my D300 sitting on the floor in storage. probably wont ever happen. with the 19.5s it steers real easy for manual. WAAAAY easier than my WCs and FFPWsHobcobble wrote:I'm with you on that Howard.NewcastleHoward wrote:I'm used to driving the 46'-68' PW's with 900-16's so I think I'll stick to manual steering.
John