Soon to be new owner of a 1964 Dodge W300

[Wildergarten]

/6 is money down a rat hole for NOTHING!

Agreed. The cash would be better placed running a poly that breathes well with a carefully tuned carburetor and higher gearing.

[Wildergarten]

I agree I’m just gonna put a 4bt in when I’m ready. I also got an Email back from Uglytruckling he has retired due to health issues and no longer makes the disc brake kit but may have a friend that may start making them but he is uncertain and would let me know.

If he wants, I know a shop here in California that can make anything out of metal. Anything. They bend 3" armor plate to make parts for Bradly tanks. Anything. They have all the CNC stuff imaginable. So if he wishes, I might be willing to help set them up so that he gets a cut out of it. These guys are good Christians, every one. They passed on at least a cool half million dollars worth of work for my former employers because they were screwing me and they wouldn't do it without me. Here, in Silicon Valley of all places, there are still people who will deliver on a handshake. So let me know if he's interested and I'll set up a phone call.

[Wildergarten]

You might want to email him his email is on the site would be great if we could get something set up

No.

[PwrWgnDrvr]

Isn't his name Ray? He moved overseas with his biz around 10 yrs ago due to NO ONE would sell him liability insurance in the states for aftermarket brake system mods. No insurance in Thailand? either, but stupid US tort law can't touch him there. I would be very surprised if he had any interest in a deal here, and even more so if your contact were able to solve the liability issue.

[wally426ci]

Neat truck. I agree with others that it would be a good idea to get it moving as is and figure out a plan. I would recommend swapping for a ball bearing kingpin kit to see if that eases your steering worries. It made a difference in my D100 at least.

Best of luck.

[Wildergarten]

I would recommend swapping for a ball bearing kingpin kit to see if that eases your steering worries.

I can see ball bearings on the top king pin, but not the bottom. Mine came from the factory as a splined bronze bushing on the top and tapered rollers on the bottom. The bearing area on even an angular contact ball bearing that would fit there would be too small for the shock loads on the bottom bearing of an offroad truck. Rollers would be better.

[PwrWgnDrvr]

Its a W300 guys, not a run of the mill 100/200!
Ive put 200,000 miles on my 62 W300 with only Armstrong power steering. Really don't get why so many so called men are so obsessed with p/s.

[Wildergarten]

Really don't get why so many so called men are so obsessed with p/s.

So that my wife can drive it in a pinch, thus meaning I can get rid of the second car.

[jwing68]

Some of us actually go wheeling and drive around in cities in our W300's, power steering makes that experience much more enjoyable! Driving a one ton that weighs in excess of 7000 # in a 60 mph cross wind with manual steering is not only difficult but dangerous.

[PwrWgnDrvr]

Some of us actually go wheeling and drive around in cities in our W300's, power steering makes that experience much more enjoyable! Driving a one ton that weighs in excess of 7000 # in a 60 mph cross wind with manual steering is not only difficult but dangerous.

"Drive around in cities.." hahahaha, the freeway where I exit to come home every day, 2 miles from here, is 7 lanes EACH DIRECTION! There are 6 redlight intersections and 4 lanes in that 2 miles. Population is over a million in a 5 miles radius. All my W300 driving, including hauling a 16,000# dump trailer is IN THAT CITY DRIVING - NO P/S, NO P/B!
P/S is a crutch for the unskilled, incapable or disabled.

[swptln]

Here the data plate couldn’t get the decoder to work. Model w300 wb 133,rear axle cap 7500,4.8,70,4500 front axle 435d4 trans, 165hp@3900, serial 90711108.

Your serial number needs to have 10 digits.

That # is not even possible for a vin. A W300 with a poly in 64 will start with 238xxxxxxx. The 4th digit is the assembly plant, most commonly the numeral 1, then the last 6 are the sequence #. "9" and "0" in 3rd and 4th position is not possible. And, the "7" would indicate a 1967 truck, but we know its not by all the other features.

Just for clearification, no dodge truck was built with a starting sequence number of "238" The 238 as Terry stated, is the Model 23=W300 and Engine 8=cyl.

The first digit in the sequence number [4th digit in the vin] is the assembly plant 1=Warren built, a 1964 Dodge truck sequence will start 1,315,000. Other than 1967 and 68 all other trucks were built in Warren. You can't have a sequence number without the plant number or 4th digit.

1961-62 used the same starting sequence for each year of 100,000 unlike the later, "1 8D2 L[100252]" the first digit in the VIN was the year.
1963 – 1230,000
1964 – 1315,000
1965 – 1430,000
1966 – 1548,000
1967 – 1668,000

Other 4th digits:
1967 – 7000,000 Missouri. Built
1968 – 1780,000 Warren Blt.
- 6000,001 Canada Blt.
- 7020,000 Missouri Blt.
1969 – 1872,000 Warren Blt.
1970-71 used a letter designation for plants, a total of 6 different plants.

[Wildergarten]

I’m gonna run the poly for now as it runs very well but will be swapping the axles to a GM14 bolt and a gm 10bolt 8 lug.

Lot$-of-grand ideas. (can't blame you though)

[Wildergarten]

Ya I may swap in an LA 318 for now being that a poly is as much as swapping in a Cummins as far as any upgrades for it.

Not at all surprising.

I’ve got to decide what transfer case I will swap in I have a spare what appears to be a stock one in the bed in pieces,but if I plan on a diesel swap at some point just gonna put something more beefier in like an NP205 or something like that. I don’t think that the stock tcase will handle anything diesel.

The NP201 is tougher than the NP205 in all but one respect that can be mitigated. There is a thread on that here on the Power Wagon discussion board https://www.sweptline.org/forums/viewto ... 17&t=42973

The full float GM14 will more than be up to the task as far as power and weight. The 10 bolt I’m still on the fence about would rather have a D60.

Bring your VISA card for an SRW 60. I've been amid a conversion to a GM SRW 60, and it's non trivial. Moved spring perches. Machined the casting for the spring pin. Moved shock mounts. Got a new tie rod (some people do crossover steering, which is easier on a W300 with a winch than it is on the W200). But the biggie is the hubs. I'll be adding a big post on that to my build thread as soon as that's all over. Believe it or not, the problem is the wheel lugs.

I will need to relocate gas tank fing the correct roof light lenses. A driver door latch and pin and matching door locks with keys. Maybe passenger fender if I can’t staighten the current one out. Pto cable.

I've toyed with the gas tank, but I don't have room if I want underbody boxes on both sides of the flatbed because the hydraulic pump and dump mechanism occupy too much of that space. Trade offs. The rest of that is easy stuff.

I also need to figure out what brakebooster and master cylinder was used as it’s not factory.

Lots of options there.

Seat needs redone gas tank relocated out of cab,bed needs some work. Brakes pedal sticks so need to see if it is due to swap. Brakes don’t work.

If it sat for long, you'll need to replace nearly the entire hydraulic system. If you do purge it, I can't recommend DOT5 silicone brake fluid highly enough. It's good enough for the military.

[Wildergarten]

I forgot what the stock t case was in this truck.

Almost guaranteed it's an NP201.

The internal differences are that the NP201 is twin stick (which I am modifying to allow 2WD-Low), has tapered roller bearings but it has an output gear that should be welded up and 10-spline shafts which requre VERY expensive yokes to upgrade the driveline to 1410 style u-joints (I did). The NP205 has one stick (there are two-stick linkages available), 30-spline shafts (stronger with cheaper yokes), and a one-piece output gear. The downside is ball bearings.

The biggie is that the PTO is particular to each t-case. An NP201 PTO will not fit an NP205 t-case and vice versa.

[PwrWgnDrvr]

.....from what I read the closed knuckle fronts in these trucks are no stronger than a d44 this is is all over the off-road forums.....

BULLSHIT!

[PwrWgnDrvr]

Whatever snowflake.

[Hobcobble]

.....from what I read the closed knuckle fronts in these trucks are no stronger than a d44 this is is all over the off-road forums.....

BULLSH*T!

The W300 front axle is sturdier than the D44. The drawback on the W300
axle is the lack of availability of drums.
John

[Wildergarten]

The W300 front axle is sturdier than the D44. The drawback on the W300 axle is the lack of availability of drums.

Drums can be relined for about $400 apiece, which may be more cost effective than an axle swap these days what with declining Dana 60 availability.